LittleEatonRam

Hughes and Hendrick were the two that stood out from the academy under Wassell. Apart from them we produced too many run of the mill midfielders . We always wanted a top , top striker .

Absolutely
how many of their home wins came after the oppostion passed up a spot kick to givr them the lead.. as we know goals change games
west ham, brentford, palace just off the top of my head.
they got 2 pens at home yo brighton, benefited from a freak og, theyre luck has been rediculous.
they think coopers a genius but its s*** house football that only lasts so long.. ie when the luck runs out 
sitting back with 10 men behind the ballat home to burnley wont be acceptable next year and it wont be long til their doing what they do best at half time having a good old booo 
 

I was saying this at the end of last season!!
In fairness, we were smarting during the summer that they needed to spend money on that squad and they did just that. I mean they could have spent a third, or mainly just forked out for MGW and a few others and still probably be in the same position they are now. What worries me is that type of spending sets a precedent and the gulf between the prem and everyone else widens indefinitely, but it was probably their only option.  
I think you have to throw some credit their way, they’ve been lucky yes but you need luck in that first season. For all we like to think football os constantly evolving, the reality is that our first season in 96/97 we picked up big results home and away and it wasn’t all down to that sides quality.
Their next move is now interesting, MGW will now be marked out of every game next season. Those top sides won’t want to come to The City Ground and make the same mistakes. I sense it’ll need to be a crazy summer again with a lot of outgoings.

They won't get the kind of luck they've had this season in the next. Spent £150m to only just stay up, so they'll either have to spend more or sack Cooper next time around. Given that they have spent next year's money this year, they could end up in trouble.

They won't get the kind of luck they've had this season in the next. Spent £150m to only just stay up, so they'll either have to spend more or sack Cooper next time around. Given that they have spent next year's money this year, they could end up in trouble.

They won't get the kind of luck they've had this season in the next. Spent £150m to only just stay up, so they'll either have to spend more or sack Cooper next time around. Given that they have spent next year's money this year, they could end up in trouble.

Without parroting the "we only had 5 players just before the season started" mantra over and over again, the truth is at least 5 teams in our league, were at a far more advanced stage of team development than us - and it showed.

We got off to a slow start because of it, we had a squad relatively thin in numbers, which told on occasions - and that, ultimately was the difference between a play-off spot, or better - and not.

We could argue PW wasn't good enough, terrible key refereeing decisions in games, but ultimately lack of consistency cost us.

I'd argue, at the start of the season, the average expectation of our final position would be somewhere between 10th and 4th - and we pretty much performed as expected. Yes, we had a few star recruits like McGoldrick and Hourihane, in their twilight years, but you need strength throughout.

Recruiting late, and basically being stuck with those players with little or no wiggle room throughout the season, was no substitute for teams that were better planned and more organised than us.

You don't get out this division quickly, unless you are relegated from the Championship with a heavyweight squad that you can afford to maintain whilst you're down here.

Like most teams in League 1, we have to learn the "long division" route is the only sustainable route back up. We didn't have it, others did.

Close but no cigar. But realistically not that surprising. 'Twas always thus in this division. Having 30,000+ crowds doesn't guarantee anything unless you get the basics right. We didn't have the time to nail all those basics.

I'm as gutted as everybody else we missed out today, but foundations need to be built to progress upwards.

DTID.

I think PW is exactly the right man for us at the moment. With a very limited budget, under-performing players and players that aren't 'his' I think he did pretty well.
If we can have a proper run at next season I feel we could really have a chance of automatics if we can keep hold of Bird, Knight, etc. 

With the amount of chances weve wasted this season it could have been dead and buried more than two games ago. 
Refs are rubbish, but you can mitigate that by taking chances. 

Not making it count in all those periods of dominant play recently is why we're here. Today shouldnt have mattered

If we miss the playoffs  it won't be down to what has happened today. Games like Fleetwood at home are haunting us, and we haven't been good enough against most of the top 6 teams.

If we miss the playoffs  it won't be down to what has happened today. Games like Fleetwood at home are haunting us, and we haven't been good enough against most of the top 6 teams.

If we miss the playoffs  it won't be down to what has happened today. Games like Fleetwood at home are haunting us, and we haven't been good enough against most of the top 6 teams.

If we miss the playoffs  it won't be down to what has happened today. Games like Fleetwood at home are haunting us, and we haven't been good enough against most of the top 6 teams.

if it was the 96th min in a playoff final and that exact same thing happened to mcgoldrick we would be up in arms that is has not been given
 
time to drop the victim mentality, it was our own fault and making

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

Mark my words - if we're struggling in 5 years time (in whatever division) there will be fans wanting Clowes out. Football fans are the most fickle people.
As far as I'm concerned as long as DC doesn't asset strip us and run us into the ground he can have the red carpet treatment for life and the freedom of Derby.

So Clowes got rid of an interim manager and replaced them with a manager with a pedigree of getting promoted from League 1. 
Pretty revolutionary step huh. 
Yer that's still not enough for some folks on here.
And all their criticisms of Warne are in fact a criticism by proxy of Clowes whom ultimately hired the guy.
Words fail me. 
 

Agree. I'm just happy to still have a club to support for now. For me this season was always about making sure we don't fall through this division as well, consolidating our position and being competitive. I would have been more than happy with top 10, so everything else has been a bonus. No bitterness or disappointment if we don't go up or make the playoffs.
COYR

Second best everywhere.

Agree. I'm just happy to still have a club to support for now. For me this season was always about making sure we don't fall through this division as well, consolidating our position and being competitive. I would have been more than happy with top 10, so everything else has been a bonus. No bitterness or disappointment if we don't go up or make the playoffs.
COYR