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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Day in Supporters Charter Group Meeting 4/10/21   
    It's very good that the various supporter groups have sustained their cohesion at this time, as the Supporters Charter Group.
    Being able to meet the Administrators will have conveyed the passion and unity of the fanbase to them.
    The team and the club needs that show of loyalty, and it is a good advert to prospective investors.
    It's also a representative body of fans that can remain in place to meet future new owners of DCFC to establish regular, open communication. 
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    Woodypecker reacted to Ram-Alf in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from HorsforthRam in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Supporters Trust   
    Yes, the EFL is not the only place where things move slowly!
    In a way, should clubs and EFL put time constraints on the duration of disciplinary proceedings (nigh-on impossible, I concede, due to lawyers!) then it would mean other 'punished' clubs in the future enjoy quicker resolution - when I'd want them to endure the same torture, out of sheer spite!
    The spotlight is gradually turning to overall game governance and the turnover-spend crisis in the Championship - are Parry & Birch man enough to tackle that, or will they just continue to hide behind their rules?
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from VulcanRam in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Kathcairns in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker reacted to CornwallRam in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Just seen that Faye Nixon was one of the redundancies. She was head of marketing, but also often ran the fan's forum events.
    That's such a shame - Faye is both lovely and super-competent. Hope that she gets something sorted soon, but I suspect that she won't be unemployed for long.
    Good luck Faye.
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from strawhillram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from lrm14 in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Foreveram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from angieram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Woodypecker reacted to Foreveram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    How would you feel if one of your employees wanted two million pounds off you cos you didn’t look after them on a night out
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    Woodypecker reacted to LeedsCityRam in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    "Hey Derby fans,
    Really sorry your club has gone into administration but I still deserve my multi million pound payout because my leg hurt a lot & as I was the innocent victim here, I've decided to do a PR piece focusing on me & how your money is helping to compensate me. Lots of people in football agreed with me - here are their names. I've employed a life coach to look at certain aspects of my character but obviously still can't take any responsibility for my role in what happened. Pretty unreasonable for me to notice how leathered my driver was, to put on a seltbelt or remember that as a senior player & captain, perhaps I should be acting as the grown up here. Obviously still love Derby & would be happy to be paid by the club again in some capacity in the future."
     
    Utter contempt.
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    Woodypecker reacted to Andicis in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Our captain got himself injured during stupid drunken behaviour and then sued us. How exactly can you be on his side? He's a crap footballer now, never came back the same. Because of his own actions.
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Eatonram in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Indyram in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Carnero in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Supporters Trust   
    All that the report conveys is the same EFL stance regarding DCFC that was conveyed in the EFL's meeting in July with the FSA (Football Supporters Association). The EFL meets reps from supporter groups across the divisions, twice a year.
    The meeting notes from that latest one have just been published, read here:
    tps://thefsa.org.uk/news/fan-reps-meet-efl-executives-july-2021/
    Interestingly, the two clubs represented from the Championship were DCFC and Reading FC.
    Credit to Pav from Punjabi Rams for putting the DCFC case. He clearly took on the EFL about the never-ending disciplinary proceedings, EFL attitude against Derby, the unfairness of the Derby <> Wycombe fixture-swap fiasco - but got told that no vendetta was proven, the EFL were transparent, they didn't control the duration of hearings, have to uphold rules, and blahh.
    Pav achieved pretty much the same as what Birch recently dribbled out during the recent Ed Dawes interview and the podcast(s) - and he no doubt felt the same frustrations.
    We will have to see how the DCFC Administrators marshall the facts, and stress the prolonged 'silent' punishments already inflicted by the timescale and EFL actions - like how the EFL unfairly applied their ' professional standing' and later, 'experienced players' squad  size rules to limit DCFC player recruitment/retention this summer - to help mitigate against further multiple penalties.
     
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in Operation Fill the Ground v Swansea   
    So many things now are going to be hit by the fuel shortage. Probably can't get to Derby now this week.
    Tickets printed - but nil petrol in my part of the West Midlands.
    So many workers - and doctors, teachers, essential workers - not getting fuel. 
    What a pathetically-governed country we live in.
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Bob Mash in Operation Fill the Ground v Swansea   
    So many things now are going to be hit by the fuel shortage. Probably can't get to Derby now this week.
    Tickets printed - but nil petrol in my part of the West Midlands.
    So many workers - and doctors, teachers, essential workers - not getting fuel. 
    What a pathetically-governed country we live in.
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from Crewton in Operation Fill the Ground v Swansea   
    So many things now are going to be hit by the fuel shortage. Probably can't get to Derby now this week.
    Tickets printed - but nil petrol in my part of the West Midlands.
    So many workers - and doctors, teachers, essential workers - not getting fuel. 
    What a pathetically-governed country we live in.
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    Woodypecker got a reaction from archram in Operation Fill the Ground v Swansea   
    So many things now are going to be hit by the fuel shortage. Probably can't get to Derby now this week.
    Tickets printed - but nil petrol in my part of the West Midlands.
    So many workers - and doctors, teachers, essential workers - not getting fuel. 
    What a pathetically-governed country we live in.
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