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Looks the same size as that madri thing to me

Looks the same size as that madri thing to me

Looks the same size as that madri thing to me

The logical extension of your argument is that you want a manager who is not blunt and straightforward, one who is dishonest with the players he wants to come to the club or with the players already here. The very opposite of our greatest ever manager perhaps. And that despite the fact that only one person will get the sack should the players not perform. 
In interview after interview by players from every club you will get comments along the lines of: ‘I just want to know where I stand’; ‘I like manager X because he’s been honest with me’.  Every good manager in the history of football sets standards, lets their players know what is expected of them on and off the pitch. I can’t see that Warne is doing anything that players won’t expect or like in that regard and if he’s also upholding the standards he sets then well done him.

The logical extension of your argument is that you want a manager who is not blunt and straightforward, one who is dishonest with the players he wants to come to the club or with the players already here. The very opposite of our greatest ever manager perhaps. And that despite the fact that only one person will get the sack should the players not perform. 
In interview after interview by players from every club you will get comments along the lines of: ‘I just want to know where I stand’; ‘I like manager X because he’s been honest with me’.  Every good manager in the history of football sets standards, lets their players know what is expected of them on and off the pitch. I can’t see that Warne is doing anything that players won’t expect or like in that regard and if he’s also upholding the standards he sets then well done him.

The logical extension of your argument is that you want a manager who is not blunt and straightforward, one who is dishonest with the players he wants to come to the club or with the players already here. The very opposite of our greatest ever manager perhaps. And that despite the fact that only one person will get the sack should the players not perform. 
In interview after interview by players from every club you will get comments along the lines of: ‘I just want to know where I stand’; ‘I like manager X because he’s been honest with me’.  Every good manager in the history of football sets standards, lets their players know what is expected of them on and off the pitch. I can’t see that Warne is doing anything that players won’t expect or like in that regard and if he’s also upholding the standards he sets then well done him.

The logical extension of your argument is that you want a manager who is not blunt and straightforward, one who is dishonest with the players he wants to come to the club or with the players already here. The very opposite of our greatest ever manager perhaps. And that despite the fact that only one person will get the sack should the players not perform. 
In interview after interview by players from every club you will get comments along the lines of: ‘I just want to know where I stand’; ‘I like manager X because he’s been honest with me’.  Every good manager in the history of football sets standards, lets their players know what is expected of them on and off the pitch. I can’t see that Warne is doing anything that players won’t expect or like in that regard and if he’s also upholding the standards he sets then well done him.

We all know what's gonna happen. Teams will come to pp, time waste, dive, cheat, argue and moan at officials all game and nothing will be done. Then one of our players will say "how long left to play ref?" get a straight red, 5 game ban and the club will be docked 12 points, fined £2mill and forced to play behind closed doors for the next 3 seasons, oh and chuck in an embargo too, why not.

The over use of Absolutely instead of Yes. And my pet hate that’s caught on in the last few years of starting a sentence, particularly an answer, with So……
On a quiz show last week to the contestant, Q   what do for a living? A   so, I’m an IT technician.  Q. Any hobbies?  A. so, I like surfing.   Q and if you won the money, what would you do with it.   A.    so, I’d like to spend it on a world cruise
duh. 
 

Onboarding is what new staff do when they join a company I work with. And it’s not a cruise line nor anything to do with boats. 

It is absolutely a thing.
Football clubs play behind closed door games all of the time, and up until 10 or 15 years ago 90% of pre season games were not even announced to the public.
I think that this thread demonstrates why that was not necessarily a bad thing

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

Finally, some sense around our financial situation.

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

And yet despite all the good news I would be prepared to bet quite a lot that our expenditure still exceeded our income and that our owner has needed to find ways of bridging the financial gap over the last year and probably next too  
 It’s not us who has to dig our hands into our pockets any more than we do,  it’s him. Even free transfers cost money. He’s being careful and thank the lord for that. 

I'm really quite sad that more people aren't making the effort for Fozzy.
Okay, distance, holidays etc I understand but the "It’s only a friendly" mantra shouldn't really apply here.
It's about recognising ten years' service from a model pro who has always given his all for the club, fought his way back from three serious injuries. He's a nice guy too.
We're taking more to Matlock, fgs!