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Do you really believe that a group of our first team players are now effectively going to stop trying for 29 matches just so they can get a move elsewhere? I don’t. 
They’ll make mistakes as they’ve always done, they’ll miss chances, miss tackles, shots and headers and some will move on either in January or the summer, but the character of this squad and individuals within it, including Tom Lawrence and Nathan Byrne, will not be in question. There is nothing that we have seen so far this season to suggest anything else, from players or management team. 

Unless, of course, they go up.  And the signing of Andy Carroll (just before the points deduction was announced so they knew what was coming) was a statement that they haven't given up on that idea.  Carroll may not be the PL force he once promised to be, but if he keeps himself fit - a significant if on his recent record - he can certainly be a force in this league.  6 points are retrievable; 12 points probably not, and all they need to do is come 6th to give themselves a chance.
One of the many failings of the EFL is their total failure to come to any meaningful agreement with the PL about the financial impact and governance around teams moving between the two leagues. That's largely down to two things - the EFL's lack of foresight and imagination going back many years about the negative impact on equal competition of the money on offer (mainly prize money and parachute payments) and, secondly, their overall lack of comparative administrative competence.  Richard Scudamore and his team knocked them into a cocked hat and his successors continue to do so.
Unfortunately, for us and the majority of the 72 clubs that make up the EFL, that ship has long since sailed, much to the detriment of football as a whole 

Unless, of course, they go up.  And the signing of Andy Carroll (just before the points deduction was announced so they knew what was coming) was a statement that they haven't given up on that idea.  Carroll may not be the PL force he once promised to be, but if he keeps himself fit - a significant if on his recent record - he can certainly be a force in this league.  6 points are retrievable; 12 points probably not, and all they need to do is come 6th to give themselves a chance.
One of the many failings of the EFL is their total failure to come to any meaningful agreement with the PL about the financial impact and governance around teams moving between the two leagues. That's largely down to two things - the EFL's lack of foresight and imagination going back many years about the negative impact on equal competition of the money on offer (mainly prize money and parachute payments) and, secondly, their overall lack of comparative administrative competence.  Richard Scudamore and his team knocked them into a cocked hat and his successors continue to do so.
Unfortunately, for us and the majority of the 72 clubs that make up the EFL, that ship has long since sailed, much to the detriment of football as a whole 

Unless, of course, they go up.  And the signing of Andy Carroll (just before the points deduction was announced so they knew what was coming) was a statement that they haven't given up on that idea.  Carroll may not be the PL force he once promised to be, but if he keeps himself fit - a significant if on his recent record - he can certainly be a force in this league.  6 points are retrievable; 12 points probably not, and all they need to do is come 6th to give themselves a chance.
One of the many failings of the EFL is their total failure to come to any meaningful agreement with the PL about the financial impact and governance around teams moving between the two leagues. That's largely down to two things - the EFL's lack of foresight and imagination going back many years about the negative impact on equal competition of the money on offer (mainly prize money and parachute payments) and, secondly, their overall lack of comparative administrative competence.  Richard Scudamore and his team knocked them into a cocked hat and his successors continue to do so.
Unfortunately, for us and the majority of the 72 clubs that make up the EFL, that ship has long since sailed, much to the detriment of football as a whole 

Good approach, speaking directly to the fans with the eminently sensible @Owen87ITK asking the questions we would ask. 
Reassuring comments about the ground passing back into the same ownership as the club will be; sounds disappointed that negotiations with the EFL took as long as they did but they are assured this is the clean slate we all wanted; HMRC still a work in progress. No wonder the timescale is slipping into January. Personally don't think this will make too much difference as we will have very little scope for wheeling and dealing in the transfer market and Rooney sounds like he has that in hand just waiting on the green light.
Middlesbrough and Wycombe - UGH!!!! What a totally unnecessary distraction we can well do without. Hang your heads in shame, Steve Gibson and that other bloke whose name I can't even be bothered to recall.

Yes, it's been used to give Peter Ridsdale another three coats of Sadolins. 

Good question but really...

Incidentally, I wonder if that paltry fine has actually been paid or not, and, if not, whether that makes the EFL a creditor? 

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.
And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.
And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.
And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.
And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

The two things we must do - or at least Wayne must - is to say that while we can mathematically stay up then that is what we must try to do. Sport occasionally throws up strange results. It’s one of its beauties. 
The second thing is to learn the lesson of our 11 point season. We went into the next in a bad way. League 1 is a tough, tough league and we need to go into it in as good a place as we can. That means continuing to do as well as possible, not chucking the kids in but giving the ones that can cope the opportunity to develop their skills and career with positive experiences, not losing regularly. We play the best team we can, every match, and sort out next season when it comes.
And we fans not only need to continue to support the team as we (largely) have done, we also need to keep reminding the world of the incompetence of the EFL and their minions even when our garden is rosy again. As it will be.

The Stewards at Interlagos are Parry, Gibson and Ridsdale

The Stewards at Interlagos are Parry, Gibson and Ridsdale

You will know this I’m sure, but just in case - the WBA match is not on Boxing Day now. They’ve moved it to the 27th.

Our pr has been appalling throughout this whole business and we've let the EFL completely dictate the narrative. 
I can't for the life of me work out what the EFL is for.... 
- it doesn't write good, clear rules
- it doesn't police its rules effectively and reasonably 
- it doesn't negotiate good deals on behalf of its members 
- it doesn't prevent bad things happening to clubs
- it doesn't appear unbiased and puts out shockingly worded and insinuating statements 
It's disgraceful really. It seems to be nothing more than a clique of has-beens in thrall to vested lobby groups. 
The fact that we were represented in one of these and completely failed to move the agenda to our advantage is merely the latest example of rubbish performance by our people. No surprise there then.... ?

Still can’t believe she did it at her age   
 

He probably needs an uplift in his stock and googled 'Rams for sale'. 

Thank you for telling us @Wistaston Ram   Had to retrieve mine from the packaging in the recycling. ?

He probably needs an uplift in his stock and googled 'Rams for sale'. 

He probably needs an uplift in his stock and googled 'Rams for sale'. 

It’s called Rugby League. Rather popular in these parts. Very good sport too. Much better than Union nowadays.

I think it was real - at least that’s how I understood what he wrote

I don't think a reason has been given, nor has there been any complaint or comment (positive or negative from either party) which would lead me to conclude that both parties have agreed to it (rather than the EFL adjourning it for their own reasons without Derby's agreement). In turn it might be reasonable to conclude from that that discussions with the EFL are reaching a point which make the hearing unnecessary.  Any agreement reached will be a compromise of course so both sides will win, and lose.
God knows that the EFL haven't covered themselves in glory with their processes which have been amateurish at best, equally though I find it very hard to believe that they genuinely want us to go under.  They might want to use us as an example to bring others into line, they might want us punished enough that we go down (which they anticipated the earlier DC would achieve), they might be in thrall to certain of their members and 'run' an incompetent  organisation that really isn't fit for purpose any more, but I struggle to believe that they want us out of business completely. So I would take the adjournment of the hearing, which by definition can be restarted, as the EFL helping to remove some of the obstacles to a quicker deal.
The unacceptable timelines comment is an easy excuse/reason to give.  Maybe they weren't in a real position to proceed.  We would have all been moaning loudly if this had dragged on 6 months to allow the Easdales the time they wanted.
Who knows though?!