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Or we could just file our accounts ffs 

We are in a mess, there is no doubt about that, however, how anyone can put this at Rooney's door is somewhat baffling to me. We could have won today and the Rooney Outers would be nowhere to be seen

We lost some composure when Morrison went off. There was a lovely bit of keep ball along the touchline when we were one up after which Morrison was taken off. Obviously Rooney wanted to “save” him (don’t know what difference 15 mins makes) and thought the lads had enough to easily see it out or that Peterborough were done. Wrong on both counts unfortunately. 
Anyway, Hull, here we come!

Or we could just file our accounts ffs 

Roos  6.  Not at fault for either goal  steady otherwise, kicking is questionable but we insist on playing it backwards to him and putting him under pressure  
Byrne   3. Steady game until the last minute calamity Sunday pub league attempted clearance. Loses 3 points for costing us a point against a team who will be down there with us at the end.
Forsyth  5. Average game from Fozzy. 
Stearman  5. Settling into a partnership with Davies, working around the lack of pace. Too much tippy tippy passing around the edge of our box. Only following orders though.
Davies   5. As above. Should be wearing the captains armband. 
Bird   4. Offers very little imho. Breaks up the odd attack but most of his games, including today, are instantly forgettable.
Shinnie  4. As above again except runs around a little bit more. Always seems one tackle away from a booking. Him and Bird are the worst midfield duo I have seen since my first match in ‘86. 
Morrison    6. Flashes of what he is capable of. Looked for and wanted the ball. Hopefully will continue to improve and we see the real player in a few weeks. 
Ebosele    4. Tough for him today. Our master plan of pinging it long for him to chase was sussed out quickly and left him chasing shadows. 
Lawrence    2. Captain Unfantastic. Ineffective throughout. Poor leader and awful choice for captain. Spent too long rolling about the floor and complaining. The one thing he does not inspire is confidence at any level.
Kazim      5. Not his day. Nothing stuck and looked off the pace. Injury set back will cost us dear I fear. 
Stretton   6. Thrown up top alone against 3 CB’s. Made some intelligent runs and cracking instinctive finish for his goal. Needs to work on his first touch but encouraging signs.
Sibley    7. Was the driving force after his introduction. Looked dangerous whenever he ran at players. His foul lead to their first, needs to work hard on that side of his game. Must start Wednesday. 
 
Joz.   1. Entered at 0-1 in 87th minute. Sleeping as his man gently strolled past him to set up the equaliser. Awful cameo from him. Clearly does not want to be a Derby player. If we can recoup our outlay he can go ASAP. Not a championship player but could rip up other less physical leagues. 
 
Rooney and the clowns. 2. Same formation, set up and tactics that have yielded us 8 points from 51 and 1 win in 18. Nothing changes if nothing changes. Whilst I understand we can not afford to sack him but can we not place him and his circus on gardening leave and use Mac and Wassall? I would rather pay Rooney to stay away than continue dragging us down…..
The Derby County Championship farewell tour 21’-22’ is well under way. 

Roos - 5 - Probably one of the only goalkeepers I've seen that doesn't look like they like to use their hands. Nearly let one in from 40 yards out which was straight at him. Almost lumped it into Marriott a few times by taking much longer than he needs to on the ball. Almost cost us a goal too. Said it before and I'll say it again. Nowhere near good enough. Our best keeper is 3rd choice. 
Byrne - 2 - Woeful. Not sure what's being asked of him. But he was barely at right back. Gives so much space away and balls just get lofted over the top. The defending for that second goal was unforgivable. Poor first game too.
Davies - 6 - Did ok. But got in a massive mess with Bird that led to their first goal. Comedy of errors. 
Stearman - 6 - Can't really think of anything he did drastically wrong. But he's part of an experienced back 4 which conceded 2 goals which wouldn't have looked out of place on the park on a Sunday.
Forsyth - 4 - Not sure what he was doing for their first goal. He's nowhere near good enough. 3 cruciate injuries. Great servant. Don't like to criticize too much. Just not good enough anymore.
Shinnie - 5 - First half was poor but thought he improved second half. Him and Bird doesn't work together though. Both slow, both left footed. 
Bird - 6 - Thought he broke the play up well. Better than Shinnie today. Still needs to move the ball quicker. But the same can be said for everyone.
Morrison - 6 - Showed some nice touches. Not sure if he's been told to drop deep, which if he has, doesn't make sense. Because clearly his talents are much more suited to a number 10 role.
Lawrence - 3 - Not sure what he's offering. Rooney wants him to score more goals. So not sure why he's dropping so deep to get the ball. Doing the work of Shinnie and Bird. If anything sums him up. It's probably having a shot from 50 yards instead of passing to an open Morrison to let him run at the defender.
Ebosele - 4 - Probably ran at them once and got a foul. They were touch tight to him. Said before. Plays a good game against Salford and everyone jumps on the hype saying he should start. He's got massive potential. But he's not ready yet. He's explosive and I said before would rather have seen him come on against tired full backs.
Kazim-Richards - 4 - The ball didn't stick to him at all today. Not that it would have made any different when the players you want round him (Lawrence and Morrison) are playing holding midfield with our 2 other CDMs. Shame he's injured. But with him being the one player we can't afford to lose, it was inevitable something would happen. It's us.
Sibley - 6 - Came on and got at them. Sick of hearing this Rooney can't trust him lark. He's the only player we have that drives and puts defenders on the back foot. He needs to start for me.
Jozwiak - 0 - Don't normally give anyone a rating who came on in the 87th minute. But he was fast asleep for their goal and didn't look remotely interested either. He probably doesn't want to be here and I can't blame him. If we were in any position to let someone go. I'm pretty sure he'd be gone. He's not a championship player. Can see him going somewhere else abroad and doing well. Still absolutely no idea why he came on in the 87th minute at 1-0 up. Makes no sense.
First half was absolutely dire. We've played against a team who have conceded 7 goals in 2 games. And the way we set up was embarrassing. Slow, laboured, never got at them. There's no attacking threat. I didn't see the goals when they lost in the cup. But the Luton game. All 3 goals were from crosses and we didn't put one in.
Second half was better. Mainly due to the introduction of Sibley. Who got at them. We actually got in positions 2 or 3 times where we could slip someone through but the final ball, as ever, was woeful. 
It's not all the managers fault. With the circumstances he's got to work in and I feel for him.
But he has to shoulder some of the blame here. He says he's got a way of playing but I have no idea what it is. 
All the issues are still there from last season. Going 1-0 up and going on to lose.
We never get at teams and look to go 1, then 2, then 3 up.
Unless things are sorted quickly. We are absolutely finished.
 

Agree with this Morrison has to feature centrally 

Yes it was that lol 
lost in translation and all that ?
 

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Agree totally on the shinnie bird point 
they’re just simply not good enough together 
they are about as average as it comes and would fair no better in league one 

Agree totally on the shinnie bird point 
they’re just simply not good enough together 
they are about as average as it comes and would fair no better in league one 

Shall we start a list of who we can't sack?

Positivity is all we have to try and get through this Rooney won't be leaving unless he walks , embargo won't be lifted and no takeover not really sure what else we can do but look for positives in what I agree is a rather poo time.

I think most of us know this 
we’re in trouble 
I argue Morrison stays on the pitch and we don’t lose that 
we lost all control after he went off 
that said u can’t legislate for that level of inept defending 

2 ducking goals in injury time 
ffs 
just kills u doesn’t it 

Is there any angle we haven’t covered yet ? 
 
im saying this in gest / frustration but Jesus Christ Derby 
this club doesn’t half know how to test its support 

It was daft from sibley but duck me our back line should be able to handle a long diagonal into the box .. shocking defending 

I think most of us know this 
we’re in trouble 
I argue Morrison stays on the pitch and we don’t lose that 
we lost all control after he went off 
that said u can’t legislate for that level of inept defending 

I think most of us know this 
we’re in trouble 
I argue Morrison stays on the pitch and we don’t lose that 
we lost all control after he went off 
that said u can’t legislate for that level of inept defending 

It was daft from sibley but duck me our back line should be able to handle a long diagonal into the box .. shocking defending 

?
do u mean joswiak was at fault for the all important first goal ??
then yes he was 
fast asleep his man ghosted past him in the penalty box
game changes on that 

And jos totally asleep 
It’s not too much to ask a player who’s been on the pitch for about 10 minutes to be fresh and switched on 

If Rooney doesn’t trust sibley … then what duck does he make of joswiak and Byrne 
absolutely garbage by those two 

I just want it to stop 

Amateur absolutely amateurs
school boy bollux defending both goals