CBX1985
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4 hours ago, DiggerB said:
https://youtube.com/shorts/mdMrE-gViok?si=jvh0ZZn06tSoytb5
Just popped up on my YouTube club feed. Feels like a very poor attempt at late PR to try and smooth fan unrest! “Look what Max can do, and haven’t we been brilliant in negotiating him to stay until summer?”
Real world point. How many times do we reach a point, in any job, where we want to move on - no difference for footballers than the rest of us. His contract is up in the summer and we'd get nothing. If he wants out at which point he'd have just left; as things stand, he is staying until end of the season (as he would have anyway), we get paid for him. BC get to know they have their man next year. Everyone is a winner - so yes this is a win for all sides.
Footballers are employees and we'd drop them as quick as you like, so them wanting what's best for themselves seems perfectly fair enough.
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On 29/12/2023 at 22:34, YouRams said:
It's simple for me does £2-3m drastically change anything to our team this season? Or does losing Cash drastically change our team this season?
Extend for a year with a guarantee in his contract, we don't make it this season we'll let you go in the summer.
They won't do that as his value would plummet - if we are going to be required to sell on his wishes, there would be no point bidding high.
I don't think the club could fairly keep him if we miss out this year, so would happen organically.
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On 23/11/2023 at 08:28, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:
The club went into administration because the owner stopped funding the club. Nothing to do with Stephen Pearce.
Indeed. He is an accountant. If he is given a business plan that says cash injection here here and here, and there is no such injection - books will not balance.
I have little opinion on Pearce, but I have been in positions where there is someone overrbearing that has "their own ideas", and in all conscience you should walk away but sometimes you think "I can dilute what they are doing by working with them rather than letting someone with fewer scruples be the go-to". I think there was an interview with Clowes where he said he thought Pearce had been honourable when everyone around him hadn't, or words to that effect.
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3 hours ago, DCFC1388 said:
We did agree to sell though but it just fell through as it was too late
I believe it was too late to arrange a loan back option or another suitable replacement (hat tip: post match reaction Dominic Dietrich on BBC RD post Lincoln).
Being willing to sell because we can loan him back, or have time to buy someone else, is very different to being willing to sell. His value to us is greater and the urgency to 'go now' for him is reduced if he can go in a few short months.
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5 hours ago, Ram-Alf said:
It's a stick or twist scenario, Has EC been promised a move after the near move in the summer?, Will the "buying" club be prepared to loan him back to us?, EC is more than a capable CH in the championship, But not the EPL...imo...yet, Would you want to keep an unhappy EC if Derby activate the extra year in his contract?
There is a post from someone who noticed EC doing a lap applauding the Derby fans after the Lincoln game...hhmmm, What does this mean...a move or just a long thank you.
The best outcome for me would be a sale and a loan back until the seasons end, Hopefully spend the fee wisely to strengthen the squad and secure a top 2 place
I think the difference in money between the two divisions makes twisting the obvious choice here.
I agree with you on the extra year. I think it makes it less likely, paradoxically, he stays until end of the season. No need for loan backs and the like which realistically will lower his price.
I would make an agreement with him that he can leave with blessings, but stay until June.
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8 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:
I believe the club must activate contract option within 6 months of a contract running out, or said player can then sign pre contract terms elsewhere.
I'd assume the club must do it by Jan 30th if that's the case, if his contract runs out end of June. If someone offers 4 million quid like they did in September however, I'd expect Derby to have his taxi booked.
He is worth more now to us than he was then. The new TV deal is much more generous and far far far more generous to Championship rather than League One teams.
If we wouldn't sell in September, we sure as hell wouldn't now.
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56 minutes ago, rammieib said:
Anyone know the rule that if we have NOT yet activated his extension, can he sign elsewhere on a pre-contract on the 1st Jan?
Surely therefore we must have protected our assets and therefore already triggered the extension?
As @Carnero clearly put it: we don't know whether he has or not.
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28 minutes ago, rammieib said:
Extend his one year deal which appears to be in OUR control - he will be worth £3m in the summer if we are in League One still.
He will be worth £4m if we are in the Championship.
I see zero point in letting him go in January, absolutely zero point.
Someone tell me why we should?
The only way I can think we have not activated it yet is because we are discussing longer terms with him. He could be countering this with a get out clause and more money etcI see where you are coming from. If I were David Clowes I might take a slightly different tact.
If we were not in a high play off spot we would probably be willing to sell him now - we would activate and paradoxically sell. The issue we have is we would want him to think the end of the season is not too far away, so why not give DCFC the time. If he has a longer contract, it might feel the carrot is being dangled which removes his incentive to stay.
The fact the option has not been activated yet signifies to me that some horse-trading is ongoing. Stay until the end of the season with us and give your all, but we will not stand in your way if you want to leave in June (or, happily, sign a new better contract with us if you get us promoted.)
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On 12/12/2023 at 15:11, Ambitious said:
I think it's a nod towards George Clooney who is a self-confessed Derby County fan. Imagine both Timothy Dalton and George Clooney at the helm, rather than stir the pot, we would definitely shake things up.
They would be after a licence to (make a) killing . It would scare the living daylights out of me.
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36 minutes ago, Gabby'sThighs said:
I'm I alone in not being too bothered about getting into the Premier League? As it stands, you can't challenge for the title without billions, and the idea of every season being a relegation battle doesn't fill me with joy. Brighton have an appealing model, focussing on buying young talent, developing them and selling on, but Southampton have shown how hard that plan is to maintain. And the idea of becoming a consortium club making money for some faceless investment group fills me with dread.
For the time being, I just want to see sustainability, a thriving academy, and a strong community presence, and I get the impression that's the current focus. Championship football will come sooner or later.
I like the idea of going back to the 1997 season. The idea of watching Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal in meaningful games every week is appealing. But I hated the 2007/08 season with a passion and would rather the Championship to that.
If we were in the running to go to EPL I'd be dead in favour, but where we are now - as it is a world away - I'm with you.
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7 hours ago, Ambitious said:
To be successful, long-term, you need money to compete. We’re a bit of a unicorn at this level so we can more than compete with our revenue. The Championship is a different ball game, of course you can beat all the odds with excellent coaching and recruitment. Usually, though, it’s the teams who spend the most money and have the biggest wage bill at the top. I think under Clowes, with all due respect to him and us, we would only be treading water at the next level.
He would be looking at a long term push. We would probably look for two or three years in Championship to solidify.
This strategy is all or nothing; it is exactly Mel's thinking. If you go up, it is inspired. It would have been inspired had Mel succeeded. But he didn't. We are where we are because he didn't.
The play off final: had we won that, Mel would probably be up their with Pickering as a great owner. It is nicer having a club that will definitely exist to that lottery.
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23 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:
I heard that Chris Kirchener is a pretty shrewd businessman
He's the best type - an alchemist.
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1 minute ago, oodledoodle said:
Not getting carried away, but we're going UP
Yep - 6th to 5th.
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1 minute ago, Caerphilly Ram said:
Counter attack from a Leyton Orient corner, NML and Barkhuizen run into their half, NML dribbles it into the area then selflessly lays it off the Barkhuizen to score
As someone put it well on here earlier: he is paid for his assists not to score goals. Must have been concerned he'd be docked wages 🙂
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3 minutes ago, Andicis said:
The league table is starting to shape up really nicely with this result
Score, not result...
Let's not tempt fate 🙂
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1 minute ago, eddielewis said:
The only good thing to come out of this has been the Derby fan caught on the pitch mic shouting 'Paul Warne, your football is $#*%'
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2 minutes ago, Eddie said:
I tried watching it on an old laptop. Utterly unwatchable - almost continuous buffering.
I'm casting it to my big screen. Every other service, BBC/SKY/BT works - even Rams TV, works fine. I won't be subscribing to this on a "premium" basis.
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5 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:
... and this is the Northampton match thread... get thesens over to the Crewe match tread!
oops.
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2 minutes ago, BathRam72 said:
No. But the feed is there. I couldn't locate it earlier
I attached the link earlier.
6 minutes ago, CBX1985 said: -
Just now, BathRam72 said:
Found it ta
Max Bird - flew the coop to Bristol City, loaned to us to end of season
in Transfer Forum
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We wouldn't be asking him to, in effect, work his notice if what you are saying is correct - easiest thing in the world would be to say "thanks, security will escort you to the door". We want him to stay until the summer.
His salary is what we have offered. We have offered (probably insisted!) that he stay until EoS.