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2 hours ago, NorwichExile said:

Also under-stating how many of our fans *still* want Warne gone...

But who is a big earner in our squad? I remember reading somewhere that Bird and Knight were on Champ-level contracts, and obvs Bielik was. But now? Maybe Hourihane and probably Bradley are well paid. Maybe Gayle, but that was out of necessity. We're hardly Barry Bannan'ing our way through the league.

Cashin signed a new deal, with Brighton being interested.  He will be being paid Championship (at least!) money.

NML the same.

14 hours ago, europia said:

I was thinking that Warney's interviews had become a bit 'David Brent' recently, so I tend to chuckle at them now.  Anyhow, as things stand, none of that matters. Just have to hope he's got what it takes to get us promoted. 

I think it's the voice.  He just sounds like him; combined with a dry humour.  

54 minutes ago, Andicis said:

I think even if he has lost some pace, he has that speed of thought that is much quicker than the defenders at this level that just gives him the edge. 

It was exactly the same with McGoldrick last year.  They still have footballing ability and brain above the level, even if the pace is more akin to where they are playing.

Staggering he was left on the shelf to the extent everyone decided not to give him a go seemingly because no one else was. 

1 hour ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

I am guessing each new area needs a few more stewards so more planning and costs, so they make sure everything is (almost) sold before thinking of opening new ones

It's not walk ups, I believe, but non season ticket holders.  You can have an all ticket match, but don't think you are able to sell all seats in a ground as season tickets.

8 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

We don't need to have sacked him if you agree.

I do agree; I have never wanted him to be sacked.  Lots did, but I think them delusional if they ever thought it would have happened.  

12 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

Didn't work in some cases though did it? 😀

Seriously though, of course we all want to get out of this division as soon as possible but maybe DC is a pragmatist and realises that promotion last season would have been outstanding, promotion in season two is a realistic hope (although we're still under the restrictions of the business plan we had to get agreed etc.), promotion by the end of season three (at the latest) is the expectation. That's where my thinking is. The only things that may have brought forward a possible parting of the ways (sacking or "by mutual consent") IMO is if we'd been way off the pace and not close to being contenders in years 1 or 2.

I agree, but I can't see how we could afford to sack a manager that we must have offered strong contractual terms to poach from a side he had managed for six years, and played for for nine!  It would have totally destroyed our business plan.

Before it is said, LR was never appointed to the top job, just interim, so would not have been a ruinous pay off.

1-0 DCFC 

90+5 Barkhuizen.

25 minutes ago, GeneralRam said:

Don't put the blame on the fans and look at your crap tactics you clown.

I know.  All that money Clowes has spent and Warne has seen us second from bottom and playing Bolton to stay up.  Oh, wait....!

1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

When was the last time we made a profit and were therefore subject to CT? 
 

CT isn’t an issue for football clubs because, by definition the club must have done OK financially that year (possibly due to player sales). When they get in a mess is when they don’t set aside money to pay their VAT and other tax liabilities. 

This is true, though there is a lot of playing with the numbers to avoid declaring profit.  In any event, should that happy day arrive, Clowes will likely receive part of his interest free loan back.  

On 08/03/2024 at 10:11, YouRams said:

Doesn't sit right with me Quant taking £13m from a club on the brink, and with the Kirchner stuff not worth 13p.

Controversial take, but they kept us running by hook or by "crook"; a buyer was found.  I think they did what was needed of them.

It is a tough and thankless job, but I think in the circle of blame at what took place, I'm not even sure they make the cut. 

On 08/03/2024 at 20:34, G STAR RAM said:

 

There is no corporation tax bill.

Indeed.  

The silver lining will be that we probably won't have any CT many years due to loss carry forward

On 09/03/2024 at 11:39, Andrew3000 said:

Some great points.  Clowes has secured his place as one of the most important people in our history and will eventually be immortalised in some form.

The academy status is a dilemma. They have an obvious emotional appeal, but are they actually worth the investment over the long term? Anyone got any evidence either way? 

 

One good player a year (either to break into the first team or to sell on to a club further up the pyramid [I'm loathe to say bigger]) and it pays for itself.  

2 minutes ago, jimbobram said:

I dont get why we make such a big gap between home and away fans here. Some other stadiums have no gap, just a barrier and a line of stewards. We are hardly known for our violence these days 

I suspect if we sold out week in week out a solution would be found to add extra.

Once or twice a season, the powers that be probably think the cost outweighs the additional seating and likely some will miss out anyway (alongside the kudos of being able to confirm a game an "all ticket sell-out").

Portsmouth have finished 0-0

15 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

English football is going global, we’re trying to market ourselves like the NFL. Did I just see the EFL has just agreed an international deal for rights to EFL games?

It screws over the fans, who in the majority of cases are local to their team and therefore don’t care about the global aspect. The premier league has started all this, the biggest error in the history of English football is to allow the Premier League to happen, an independent organisation to football’s governing body whose only focus is on making it the richest league in the world attracting the best players and having 6 teams who are superpowers who can win champions leagues. The result is a league disconnected from the pyramid rigged in such a way that only the clubs who had established global fanbases (the big 6) can prosper unless you had a billionaire to make you one of the superpowers which now with the introduction of FFP they’re seemingly stopping/restricting.

Personally, I don’t care if an English team never wins the champions league again (unless it’s Derby). I don’t care if the worlds best players don’t play in the premier league, I don’t care if the premier league is labelled “best league in the world”, I want a top tier of English football that is attainable for 40-50 clubs and that the majority of those clubs have the chance to be competitive once in a while even if it’s not for a sustained period. If I had that, and an England national team that could win everything then that would do me fine and I think 90% of proper English football fans would say the same. 

Im not a socialist by any stretch but I do think some socialist principles need to be applied to English football to enable a proper reset of the game to make the whole league Pyramid more competitive. Without the playoffs the premier league would already be a closed shop by now and I still think this will be the season where the three promoted teams come back down and the three relegated teams go straight back up.

I watch the PL, but don't really care who wins either.  However, the experience of fans in general is much better thanks to those innovations.  Pre-SKY, they were treated like s***.  The Baseball Ground pitch was a mud patch.  Now we (or did) have all seaters, with hospitality. 

The parallel world you describe exists today. It is practically all those countries that don't have a top league.  Why watch Rhyl or Melbourne Utd or Tokyo Allstars when you can watch Man City, or Chelsea etc?  

The Premier League being that league would not have stopped that process, happening it would have just meant it was some other league that benefited (and their second and third tiers also, by extension).  The difference being that we can play Man City and may, with time and luck, be in that division. That gives us a reason to survive and a reason to attract new fans.  

5 hours ago, Simmo’s left foot said:

Unfortunately the EFL have sold their soul for Sky TV cash, in order to keep their heads above the water in the financial chaos of football. If the clubs stopped paying out the ridiculous levels of wages to players then this would not be necessary. 😞 Who do we complain about Sky TV for working to the contract the EFL have signed, or the clubs and the EFL for signing it?

I'd suggest halving the EFL wage bill in every division would be a good start?

Nice sentiment, but we live in a market economy and professional football is one of the most competitive work environments of in the world.

The Premier League sells for big money all over the world.  The leagues below, for which we belong, are all - in reality - in competition with those clubs (i.e. they can go down and we can go up).

Unless you have a wage cap, in which case everyone will want to be paid the cap regardless of ability, halving wages cannot feasibly happen.  Teams that want to get into the PL are always going to want to spend to get there.  Teams don't have to pay any wages they don't want to; we wouldn't want to become League Two so need to pay a going rate for a short career that may end any given week that of 100 talented footballers, 1 will break through into an established pro.  They are highly skilled and require fair remuneration of that fact.  

Sky TV money is the lifeblood of the game.  What some don't like is it's affects on their experience, as they are not the primary consumer: Sky are.  i would rather healthy balance sheets but crappy kick offs than the alternative.    

I don't know what alleged racist comments he may have made, but my concern is that - from listening to him on Saturday - his level of English is not overly strong (no, before anyone says, nor is my Italian).  It may be worth paying interpreters for a head coach, but he would only ever be in a lesser role and not sure it would be worth the cost.

Our team is practically all British (albeit some play for exotic countries to be an international).  Not sure we have the set up that more international teams have that could accommodate; but if we go up who knows. 

On 04/03/2024 at 10:00, NottsRam said:

With all due respect, i can't go either so I can watch it on Sky, however i have a lot of friends who do a lot of away games and this ridiculous change has really thrown a spanner in the works.

I was being slightly facetious. I agree moving fixtures is a nightmare and should be given more time.  My point was more that getting away tickets is so difficult these days that for more people than can actually attend.

There is a lot of criticism of broadcasters, but they put a lot of money in and they are going to want to have the best slots.  

On 29/02/2024 at 16:06, NottsRam said:

Absolute joke

Eye of the beholder.  Those of us who can't go can watch the match on Sky and get to get out of the house on Easter Monday.  Win win.

2 hours ago, Boycie said:

In my opinion, if he’s getting 5-10 minutes in the odd game, he might as well be playing in the u21 keeping his confidence up and getting the odd run out for us for 5-10 mins.

I assume they hoped Gateshead would play hIm more?

Why are Gateshead not playing him?  If he isn't good enough to be first team there, what chance here

On 24/01/2024 at 10:01, Ghost of Clough said:

Warne opted to use Mendez-Laing in the middle rather than playing John-Jules there. What hope does an academy player have?

The Academy was decimated by administration.  Their performance has been dreadful.  It will take a "footballing" generation (i.e. time from scouting to playing) to get back to 2021/22 levels.

It is ok saying "let's get academy payers in", but what if the academy players are realistically only Gateshead Utd level players?  If there was someone in the academy today, I put it that Warne would have been having them training with 1sts pretty pronto  He hasn't, so he doesn't rate any of them at this stage highly enough - or even at all.

What hope does an academy player have?  If they are good enough: lots, probably due to circumstances better than elsewhere.  If they aren't, do we really want second rate 18 year olds in the team  Better off getting some/any 35 year old from any of four top divisions - at least they have experience.  

11 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

Does it cover pre-existing conditions (unlike a lot of insurance)? If not, we may need to rethink recruitment policy given the number of crocks we seem to sign. 😊

I'm an IFA and have arranged a number of policies for players over the years, but also for professional sports clubs (not DCFC).

Players can take out a type of enhanced income protection plan.  Clubs can take out plans which pay salary or pay a lump sum.  You can insure against known injuries; you could even insure a player that has gone off with an injury.  You could even insure Collins.  It is called after the event insurance, so costs a hell of a lot - and would have a lead in time.  So if doctors said he should be fit in a month, you could insure if he isn't back in two, say.

What is to know is that clubs can go to market (i.e. Lloyds of London) and can request any cover they want.  The options available to them are far far far more than ordinary Joes, but you have to be willing to pay the Premium.  The cost of which is determined by the risk level of something happening against the cost it does. 

Plans for players are always expensive, due to salary and risk; but not insuring is often more expensive.   

12 hours ago, Bob The Badger said:

Yep.

Lots of doctors work short weeks for the NHS now so they can do private work.

That is accentuated with specialists, of which, in most areas, there is a desperate shortage. 

I'm married to one (consultant anaesthetist) and... that isn't the panacea it appears.

Consultants sign up for a number of blocks - a right they have had since the founding of the NHS.  My wife works four 8 am to 8pm shifts per week.  Twice a month she does an extra day which pretty much doubles her pay.

However, due to the way tax/pension is deducted doing five days for the NHS actually results in lower pay than doing four over those hours.  There needs to be a drastic uptick in earnings to justify doing anymore.  

I am an IFA and many of my clients are doctors.  The above is the standard approach; some do a more balanced approach - but 4 and 1 give or take is the norm.  Get rid of the private work, most will just not do the extra day.

Just now, Caerphilly Ram said:

5 mins 

Cheers - following this thread as can't watch game.

How much injury time is there in the Derby game?