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More fool them.
I thought he was a mediocre manager at best whose wages helped to drain the club's finances even further at a time we could ill afford to do so.
Plus I feel he was always instrumental in the removal of cocu and undermined him as the manager in his own desire for management.
And he will always be the man who was in charge when we were relegated to league 1.
A massive mistake by Birmingham that won't them take long to regret I fear.

My thoughts
I can't see Warne getting us promoted this year.
The football is pretty dire to watch.
Home performances are bad.
The players that have been signed don't look to have improved us.
The team from this time last year was better than now.
There have been some crucial injuries.
We have too many old players that flatter to deceive.
I think we have a team with no balance.
We have a team with no credible scoring threat
Our top scorer was signed as a fluke because he came along to a mates testimonial
Can Warne improve what we have got? I'm not sure he can. He has had a while to influence the team and we should be seeing improvements. This is league 1 not the premier league. Not saying that these things can't take time but i'm not seeing any improvement in the side.
I am very reluctant to say a manager should go as that can cause more problems but I don't really want to spend another season in league 1. 
I think give Warne until December. If we see improved performances and we are in with a fighting chance of play offs then he stays but if performances remain as they are and play-offs are looking out of reach then he should go to give a new manager time to sign new players and possibly make a fist of getting in the play offs.
Not to sound arrogant but we really shouldn't be in the position we are.

My thoughts
I can't see Warne getting us promoted this year.
The football is pretty dire to watch.
Home performances are bad.
The players that have been signed don't look to have improved us.
The team from this time last year was better than now.
There have been some crucial injuries.
We have too many old players that flatter to deceive.
I think we have a team with no balance.
We have a team with no credible scoring threat
Our top scorer was signed as a fluke because he came along to a mates testimonial
Can Warne improve what we have got? I'm not sure he can. He has had a while to influence the team and we should be seeing improvements. This is league 1 not the premier league. Not saying that these things can't take time but i'm not seeing any improvement in the side.
I am very reluctant to say a manager should go as that can cause more problems but I don't really want to spend another season in league 1. 
I think give Warne until December. If we see improved performances and we are in with a fighting chance of play offs then he stays but if performances remain as they are and play-offs are looking out of reach then he should go to give a new manager time to sign new players and possibly make a fist of getting in the play offs.
Not to sound arrogant but we really shouldn't be in the position we are.

My thoughts
I can't see Warne getting us promoted this year.
The football is pretty dire to watch.
Home performances are bad.
The players that have been signed don't look to have improved us.
The team from this time last year was better than now.
There have been some crucial injuries.
We have too many old players that flatter to deceive.
I think we have a team with no balance.
We have a team with no credible scoring threat
Our top scorer was signed as a fluke because he came along to a mates testimonial
Can Warne improve what we have got? I'm not sure he can. He has had a while to influence the team and we should be seeing improvements. This is league 1 not the premier league. Not saying that these things can't take time but i'm not seeing any improvement in the side.
I am very reluctant to say a manager should go as that can cause more problems but I don't really want to spend another season in league 1. 
I think give Warne until December. If we see improved performances and we are in with a fighting chance of play offs then he stays but if performances remain as they are and play-offs are looking out of reach then he should go to give a new manager time to sign new players and possibly make a fist of getting in the play offs.
Not to sound arrogant but we really shouldn't be in the position we are.

My thoughts
I can't see Warne getting us promoted this year.
The football is pretty dire to watch.
Home performances are bad.
The players that have been signed don't look to have improved us.
The team from this time last year was better than now.
There have been some crucial injuries.
We have too many old players that flatter to deceive.
I think we have a team with no balance.
We have a team with no credible scoring threat
Our top scorer was signed as a fluke because he came along to a mates testimonial
Can Warne improve what we have got? I'm not sure he can. He has had a while to influence the team and we should be seeing improvements. This is league 1 not the premier league. Not saying that these things can't take time but i'm not seeing any improvement in the side.
I am very reluctant to say a manager should go as that can cause more problems but I don't really want to spend another season in league 1. 
I think give Warne until December. If we see improved performances and we are in with a fighting chance of play offs then he stays but if performances remain as they are and play-offs are looking out of reach then he should go to give a new manager time to sign new players and possibly make a fist of getting in the play offs.
Not to sound arrogant but we really shouldn't be in the position we are.

My thoughts
I can't see Warne getting us promoted this year.
The football is pretty dire to watch.
Home performances are bad.
The players that have been signed don't look to have improved us.
The team from this time last year was better than now.
There have been some crucial injuries.
We have too many old players that flatter to deceive.
I think we have a team with no balance.
We have a team with no credible scoring threat
Our top scorer was signed as a fluke because he came along to a mates testimonial
Can Warne improve what we have got? I'm not sure he can. He has had a while to influence the team and we should be seeing improvements. This is league 1 not the premier league. Not saying that these things can't take time but i'm not seeing any improvement in the side.
I am very reluctant to say a manager should go as that can cause more problems but I don't really want to spend another season in league 1. 
I think give Warne until December. If we see improved performances and we are in with a fighting chance of play offs then he stays but if performances remain as they are and play-offs are looking out of reach then he should go to give a new manager time to sign new players and possibly make a fist of getting in the play offs.
Not to sound arrogant but we really shouldn't be in the position we are.

I agree. I couldn't quite believe the love in for him on Radio Derby. I don't see it with Hourihane. He seems to have no influence on the game. He made one shocking pass, pinged it blindly into the center of midfield from the left, i couldn't fathom what he was trying to do. He runs around a bit, rarely tackles (although Radio derby were trying to suggest the goal only came about because he made a routine tackle in the middle of the park that Cashin would have got anyway), can't seem to head anything and yes he takes the set pieces but I wouldn't say he's that great at it ( how many goals have come from them). However we don't really have any other options in CM, Maybe Sibley. I think he's living off his history and his name. If he was someone who had come up through the academy he wouldn't be getting a game. 

I think we all need to be calm about this as it is only two games. Panicking will make it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy that he will go. You can't hide it hasn't been a good start but Warne deserves time to work on the way he wants to play. If players want out then get out and good riddance. 
On Saturday I thought we looked good. Entertaining play, lots of opportunities but undone by individual errors and lack of top quality striker.
That's the thing we are crying out for, someone who can stick the ball in the net. We had the same issue last year but at least we had McGoldrick. If we want to do anything this year we need a striker. 

I agree about Fozzy. he did a superb job back there last year. I don't think he plays well on the left, wonder strike aside.

I think we all need to be calm about this as it is only two games. Panicking will make it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy that he will go. You can't hide it hasn't been a good start but Warne deserves time to work on the way he wants to play. If players want out then get out and good riddance. 
On Saturday I thought we looked good. Entertaining play, lots of opportunities but undone by individual errors and lack of top quality striker.
That's the thing we are crying out for, someone who can stick the ball in the net. We had the same issue last year but at least we had McGoldrick. If we want to do anything this year we need a striker. 

I think we all need to be calm about this as it is only two games. Panicking will make it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy that he will go. You can't hide it hasn't been a good start but Warne deserves time to work on the way he wants to play. If players want out then get out and good riddance. 
On Saturday I thought we looked good. Entertaining play, lots of opportunities but undone by individual errors and lack of top quality striker.
That's the thing we are crying out for, someone who can stick the ball in the net. We had the same issue last year but at least we had McGoldrick. If we want to do anything this year we need a striker. 

I think we all need to be calm about this as it is only two games. Panicking will make it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy that he will go. You can't hide it hasn't been a good start but Warne deserves time to work on the way he wants to play. If players want out then get out and good riddance. 
On Saturday I thought we looked good. Entertaining play, lots of opportunities but undone by individual errors and lack of top quality striker.
That's the thing we are crying out for, someone who can stick the ball in the net. We had the same issue last year but at least we had McGoldrick. If we want to do anything this year we need a striker. 

I think we all need to be calm about this as it is only two games. Panicking will make it end up being a self fulfilling prophecy that he will go. You can't hide it hasn't been a good start but Warne deserves time to work on the way he wants to play. If players want out then get out and good riddance. 
On Saturday I thought we looked good. Entertaining play, lots of opportunities but undone by individual errors and lack of top quality striker.
That's the thing we are crying out for, someone who can stick the ball in the net. We had the same issue last year but at least we had McGoldrick. If we want to do anything this year we need a striker. 

What mid-season form. I must have missed that. He really offers nothing and yet somehow gets selected every game. How he lasted the 90 minutes I don't know. His position, anticipation and runs are all over the shop. 

What mid-season form. I must have missed that. He really offers nothing and yet somehow gets selected every game. How he lasted the 90 minutes I don't know. His position, anticipation and runs are all over the shop. 

It was like a Plymouth love in on Sky. The commentators were clearly supporting Plymouth.
It was never a penalty. White's little toe may have contacted the Plymouth players big toe but it was in no way enough to have any effect on the Plymouth player. The ref couldn't wait to give the penalty. 
What was really getting on my nerves was when the female host kept saying Harvey white brought down the Plymouth guy. That was not true. The guy dived, there was no criticism of that. Then them going on about how Plymouth got such a great record at home, yes because the referees just give you stuff. 
Well hacked off today. Well done to all the fans that travelled.

It was like a Plymouth love in on Sky. The commentators were clearly supporting Plymouth.
It was never a penalty. White's little toe may have contacted the Plymouth players big toe but it was in no way enough to have any effect on the Plymouth player. The ref couldn't wait to give the penalty. 
What was really getting on my nerves was when the female host kept saying Harvey white brought down the Plymouth guy. That was not true. The guy dived, there was no criticism of that. Then them going on about how Plymouth got such a great record at home, yes because the referees just give you stuff. 
Well hacked off today. Well done to all the fans that travelled.

I always struggle to get a mobile signal at pride park so I can't check on scores as the game is happening. I understand the technical reasons and the limitation of a mobile network. What would be great is if Derby county could provide a free WiFi connection for supporters in the stadium. Would anyone know who you could approach in the club to ask about this. I know it wouldn't be cheap to set this up for 30,000 supporters and maybe it is just a perk for season ticket holders but I'm sure most people have the same problem.

It was like a Plymouth love in on Sky. The commentators were clearly supporting Plymouth.
It was never a penalty. White's little toe may have contacted the Plymouth players big toe but it was in no way enough to have any effect on the Plymouth player. The ref couldn't wait to give the penalty. 
What was really getting on my nerves was when the female host kept saying Harvey white brought down the Plymouth guy. That was not true. The guy dived, there was no criticism of that. Then them going on about how Plymouth got such a great record at home, yes because the referees just give you stuff. 
Well hacked off today. Well done to all the fans that travelled.

How long does it take a few people to decide which games to cover, it's a half hour conversation round a table, at the most. Nothing has happened in the last few days to change that decision. Replays could make a difference, but they're another week away.
The FA need to put in the contract that the tv companies need to announce the fixtures within 48 hours of the draw.

Wildsmith 8
Forsyth 7
Hourihane 6
Stearman 6
Bird ?6
Collins 7
McGoldrick 6
Mendez-Laing 8
Thompson 6
Smith 7
Roberts 8
Sibley 6
Dobbin 6
Osula 6
Rooney 7

True, I was particularly pleased for Tommo. He's had some stick recently but I thought he played very well when he came on.

True, I was particularly pleased for Tommo. He's had some stick recently but I thought he played very well when he came on.

True, I was particularly pleased for Tommo. He's had some stick recently but I thought he played very well when he came on.

True, I was particularly pleased for Tommo. He's had some stick recently but I thought he played very well when he came on.