wixman1884 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 hours ago, ram1964 said: statistically i am only 6 numbers short of winning millions on the lottery. No, I'm pretty sure any statistician will say you have a 1 in 13,983,816 chance of winning millions on the lottery. '6 numbers short' is a daft oversimplification with zero value. Much like the rest of the 'score more than the opposing team' drivel in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Football stats are like masturbation. The more you fool around with it, the more you forget it isn't the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 hours ago, ram1964 said: So with referance to BC you are saying that becouse he was succesful several decades ago,if he was about now his attitudes ,views opinions would be worthless and not comparable Putting words in my mouth? Did I say it was worthless? I am saying it's not entirely comparable though. Every team in the country utilises the statistical data to see how their team are doing. You know those things they always wear in training that just look like sports bras? That's what that's for. Measures all sorts of minute details from distance run all the way down to heartrate. Occasionally we do get a manager who chooses to reject the stats but generally they don't get very far. Most clubs, like us, have entire statistical departments to analyse and condense these stats into what we need to know, and pass them on to the manager. We're doing this at a fairly amateur level but that's true of anything we do as supporters. This stuff just simply wasn't available half a century ago. Maybe you're right that BC would have rejected these ideas but he didn't get everything right did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 16 hours ago, Angry Ram said: If only we played on a spreadsheet eh... The League table shows us where we are statistically... nice dots on the one you quoted, very pretty. @i-Ramhad it nailed ... 11 hours ago, MuespachRam said: I found another statistic that indicates we are a long way from being successful...I call it, the league table...google it and check it out. Due to your interest in the league table I looked at the table for the last 6 games. We'd be 9th... I also looked at our last four games (since Pearson left) only Newcastle can boast more points than us in the last 4 games, 3/4 teams can boast the same amount of points but only Newcastle have more than us. I think that statistic is fairly important, do you agree or disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said: Due to your interest in the league table I looked at the table for the last 6 games. We'd be 9th... I also looked at our last four games (since Pearson left) only Newcastle can boast more points than us in the last 4 games, 3/4 teams can boast the same amount of points but only Newcastle have more than us. I think that statistic is fairly important, do you agree or disagree? disagree but that's stats.. I could,probably find,a,period in time,when we were awful.. Just depends on what you are looking to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: Due to your interest in the league table I looked at the table for the last 6 games. We'd be 9th... I also looked at our last four games (since Pearson left) only Newcastle can boast more points than us in the last 4 games, 3/4 teams can boast the same amount of points but only Newcastle have more than us. I think that statistic is fairly important, do you agree or disagree? Totally disagree... the league table is not just the last 4 games it is the season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Totally disagree... the league table is not just the last 4 games it is the season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Some bizzare posts on here in regards to stats in football. I thought is was really interesting. As long as we want it more than them, we'll be fine. Get in to them. Shoooot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I prefer stats with significant p-values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, Dimmu said: I prefer stats with significant p-values. I'd love to see them put some p-values to it. Significance is too often ignored when talking about statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 What's Statto up to these days? Is he still alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 14 hours ago, Angry Ram said: stats not going so well on here then I love it when you start saying "Ner Ner Ner ner na!" Angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 46 minutes ago, SKRam said: What's Statto up to these days? Is he still alive? Some dodgy betting company he is associated with kept sending me spam texts a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 4 hours ago, cannable said: So....how are those stats looking to you now......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 You know you can shove your fu5king stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Angry Ram said: disagree but that's stats.. I could,probably find,a,period in time,when we were awful.. Just depends on what you are looking to prove. You could but I was concentrating on the present. 6 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Totally disagree... the league table is not just the last 4 games it is the season.... You're right it isn't but a lot of people put the blame for our awful beginning on Pearson so it would be wise to look at it since that factor was removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 @Ellafella you seem to be getting a fair amount of unwarranted stick here. You put in the effort to put together a decent post and rather than people providing logical counterarguments to what you have wrote, it's all 'Stats are meaningless, lol'. I for one appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 How about using the stats of goals scored instead of shots taken, then you'll work out we are bloody miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, IlsonDerby said: You could but I was concentrating on the present. You're right it isn't but a lot of people put the blame for our awful beginning on Pearson so it would be wise to look at it since that factor was removed? We aren't actually far away at all, 8 agree, we are a lot closer to relegation than even the stats show..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Stick the statistics we lost end of. How many shots do the statistics say we had in the second half? My statistics say we are **** and I can't see it changing. Another statistic will show we are paying players more than they are worth. Negative equity if you ask me. Bring back the yanks and NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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