ianm Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 At last a local journalist has put us in the picture about what is actually the issue on the impasse over Nigel's new deal. Look at the Gerald Mortimer column in the Telegraph today and he states the situation. Look after my staff and we can negotiate is the issue with Clough. That is the issue then and thank you to Mr Mortimer for putting us in the picture. Too much to ask for Bloomfield and co on Radio Derby to actually do their job and find out what is really the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Ram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He had said this quite a while ago. Interesting none the less. ER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 What does that mean though "look after my staff"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 What does that mean though "look after my staff"? I think it is clear he wants them to be given secure contracts, as well as himself for a deal to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ive never really been comfortable with the jobs for the boys in football management - couldnt believe what came out of the woodwork when we binned billy davies. Having said that, its Mr Cloughs team - the one he has built inc. the backroom staff and its proving to be a good one. Hope this gets sorted sooner not later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Makes sense – and Clough Sr was a staunch socialist so those values would almost certainly be instilled in Nigel. A boss that looks out for his staff, rather than his own pay cheque is a rarity these days His Dad will be proud of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's only good if the backroom staff are any good. Do people seriously rate Garner and Crosby et al as coaches? They come across as being thick as two short ones and it's often been suggested that the backroom staff aren't up to it. Just throwing that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's only good if the backroom staff are any good. Do people seriously rate Garner and Crosby et al as coaches? They come across as being thick as two short ones and it's often been suggested that the backroom staff aren't up to it. Just throwing that out there. I hear a lot of Derby fans say this, but none of them have even spoke to them or have been coached by them. The players on the whole have come out and praised the backroom staff, that is indication enough to me that they're good enough for the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 we are third in the league with a much smaller budget. Just because the backroom staff aren't skilled at or comfortable with talking the media doesn't mean that they are poor at their jobs- because it isn't their job to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's only good if the backroom staff are any good. Do people seriously rate Garner and Crosby et al as coaches? They come across as being thick as two short ones and it's often been suggested that the backroom staff aren't up to it. Just throwing that out there. Well Nigel obviously rates them as he has been with them for many years. We talk about loyalty to a club or a manager to create stability and continuity and this to me is all part of that. Nigel needs blokes who he can trust around him and that is why the DoF sounds dodgy to me unless it is someone Nigel wants and not just agrees to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I hear a lot of Derby fans say this, but none of them have even spoke to them or have been coached by them. The players on the whole have come out and praised the backroom staff, that is indication enough to me that they're good enough for the role. when have they praised the back room staff? i know one or two of them have praised nigel but i have never heard a player praise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 when have they praised the back room staff? i know one or two of them have praised nigel but i have never heard a player praise them. Apart from when Savage came out and rebutted those rumours Players praise the set up as a whole, which I assume includes the backroom staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 only savage has to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ben Davies the other day said "The lads are brilliant – they are top class," said the 30-year-old. "There's not one person in the dressing room that doesn't fit in. "We all get on really well and I think the team spirit is just as important as having the right players in the team. "I think probably last year, it wasn't quite there but it certainly is now. "The lads are putting their bodies on the line for each other – running, tackling, heading – and you can see when someone misses a chance, we pick each other up. "When someone makes a mistake, nobody gets on their back and that's a massive thing. I think that comes from the gaffer, the coaching staff and the players he's brought in. "It's the gaffer's team now and everyone is working hard not just for him but for the fans and the club as a whole." http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Ben-confident-Rams-aim-high-strong-team-spirit/story-13447837-detail/story.html Sounds more like a dig at Savage but he does mention the coaching staff. I'm sure if you pulled up a few of the players interviews on Rams Player alot do mention the work the coaching team put in is top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Just because there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest the backroom staff are rubbish, if a few posters on here think they probably are, then they must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 At last a local journalist has put us in the picture about what is actually the issue on the impasse over Nigel's new deal. Look at the Gerald Mortimer column in the Telegraph today and he states the situation. Look after my staff and we can negotiate is the issue with Clough. That is the issue then and thank you to Mr Mortimer for putting us in the picture. Too much to ask for Bloomfield and co on Radio Derby to actually do their job and find out what is really the problem. Has he got a quote off Nigel? Or is Mr Mortimer speculating and you are turning it into fact, so you can have another dig at Colin Bloomfield and co? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Bloomfield is t*ss... so0o0o dig away hardy harr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I hope we get Clough and the backroom staff signed up. I don't see making changes now as a good thing. Is this another example of poor management of the day to day running of the club by Glick? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I hope we get Clough and the backroom staff signed up. I don't see making changes now as a good thing. Is this another example of poor management of the day to day running of the club by Glick? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> Can't say it's poor management by Glick or not until the negotiations end, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Maybe he is waiting to see where we are in January/February time and see if we don't have a repeat of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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