Sunderland away

[Anag Ram]

5 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

I would presume, if they can legally search for and confiscate coins, that they could search anything and everything where coins may be found. That might not include bodily orifices but I wouldn't take the risk 🙂

There are some who could fire coins from various orifices and who therefore pose a threat. 
If you see anyone adopting unusual positions in the crowd you should report it to the nearest steward 😊

[Mucker1884]

2 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

There are some who could fire coins from various orifices and who therefore pose a threat. 
If you see anyone adopting unusual positions in the crowd you should report it to the nearest steward 😊

... or get ready to catch!

[WharfedaleRam]

No coins policy would have suited my old father in law (RIP last year at ripe old age of 96). He never liked carrying money to the pub beforehand!!!

[Kathcairns]

4 hours ago, BathRam72 said:

Only if he is carrying a purse in his bag 

Thought after i had posted that someone would come back with that remark😂🤣

[europia]

21 hours ago, Foreveram said:

Middlesbrough website says their fans will be subject to enhanced searches.

The average collected from Sheffield Wednesday fans works out at about 16 pence each so I don’t think it will be too much of a problem.

Well no, in monetary terms just a few pence is hardly relevant. However the inference that anyone and everyone is a potential idiot likely to use a small metal object as a missile is another thing. It's about numbers, and the majority of well meaning football supporters being brandished as potentially dangerous, due to a very small percentage of total imbeciles. 

[Foreveram]

42 minutes ago, europia said:

Well no, in monetary terms just a few pence is hardly relevant. However the inference that anyone and everyone is a potential idiot likely to use a small metal object as a missile is another thing. It's about numbers, and the majority of well meaning football supporters being brandished as potentially dangerous, due to a very small percentage of total imbeciles. 

I have been going to football matches for nearly 60 years and it’s always been that way.

The majority of grounds you aren’t allowed to buy a bottle of water with the top on, some grounds don’t even let you have the bottle and pour it into a plastic cup.

Although it doesn’t generally happen now lots of grounds would hold back away fans after the game for up to 20 minutes in the interest of public safety, regardless of someone’s age or gender.

Away fans are very often told by police to exit the ground in a certain direction even if your car is parked a short distance away, resulting in a detour around the ground.

Away fans are almost always patted down and searched, but not the home fans at the same ground, in any other walk of life that would constitute discrimination.

Tomorrow we are at Sheffield United where no doubt a small but vocal group of our fans will arrive at the ground off their heads on whatever substance and will sing about Billy Sharp being a sex offender, but the police will let them in because they will be in a controlled environment where they can stand back and film them.

So am I going to get upset that someone is going to part me from my loose change at Sunderland, nah, they’re not getting it though 😂

[BathRam72]

18 hours ago, Kathcairns said:

Thought after i had posted that someone would come back with that remark😂🤣

I always try not to disappoint 

[Tamworthram]

On 19/09/2024 at 23:55, Foreveram said:

Middlesbrough website says their fans will be subject to enhanced searches.

The average collected from Sheffield Wednesday fans works out at about 16 pence each so I don’t think it will be too much of a problem.

But you must know averages don’t quite work like that. If everyone attending was asked to chip in 16p then yes, you’re right, it’s no big deal. But it’s quite possible that some folk won’t have any coins on them (or very little) whilst others may have 4 or 5 pound coins. Still not quite the end of the world but effectively adding a fiver to your ticket price is a bit different to just 16p.

[Foreveram]

9 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

But you must know averages don’t quite work like that. If everyone attending was asked to chip in 16p then yes, you’re right, it’s no big deal. But it’s quite possible that some folk won’t have any coins on them (or very little) whilst others may have 4 or 5 pound coins. Still not quite the end of the world but effectively adding a fiver to your ticket price is a bit different to just 16p.

Or maybe most people said no I haven’t got any coins and were waved through, and the ones behaving like dick heads were subjected to enhanced searches, time will tell, like I said, I’m not overly concerned 🤷‍♂️

[Tyler Durden]

On 17/09/2024 at 16:16, Day said:

Not just coins but vapes as well.

Seems a little excessive.

So if you’re say a 60 year old fan that can’t get to grips with mobile phone payments, also trying to quit smoking traditional cigarettes by using a vape, arrives to the game on the train.

They would be expected to get rid of any change in their pockets and disposing of a vape. Something that the government are looking to ban, disposable vapes. Or find somewhere to stash these around the ground to collect later?

All because of a few mindless idiots.

I know cashless society is coming, it’s inevitable, although it feels a little early considering mobile phones with banking apps and payments have been around for what, 10 years?

Feels like they are alienating a generation of fans that have been following their club for 60/70 years.

It's perfectly legal for a shop to refuse payment in the form or coins of the realm or banknotes. 

This isn't a new phenomenon it's based in UK Common Law.

It's only just recently being applied in so called cashless stores. But they have the right to decline anyone trying to pay using coins or banknotes all the same.

You've probably seen the video of the old dude trying to pay for strawberries in a cashless stores using coins and the store telling him that they don't have to accept it and is therefore by default theft if he doesn't use a card despite his protestations.

Not that I could see the shop calling the filth for 2 quid worth of fruit. 

When did cheque books get phased out? Online banking has been around for aeons, this is just a natural progression.

I was actually amazed that so many coins were collected as I cannot remember the last time I saw anyone paying using cash in a pub for example.

Unless of course the coins actually were meant for throwing. Seems a bit gratuitous though even for Wendies fans. 

Edited Sunday at 19:25 by Tyler Durden
Can't spell

[Day]

4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

It's perfectly legal for a shop to refuse payment in the form or coins of the realm or banknotes. 

This isn't a new phenomenon it's based in UK Common Law.

It's only just recently being applied in so called cashless stores. But they have the right to decline anyone trying to pay using coins or banknotes all the same.

You've probably seen the video of the old dude trying to pay for strawberries in a cashless stores using coins and the store telling him that they don't have to accept it and is therefore by default theft if he doesn't use a card despite his protestations.

Not that I could see the shop calling the filth for 2 quid worth of fruit. 

When did cheque books get phased out? Online banking has been around for aeons, this is just a natural progression.

I was actually amazed that so many coins were collected as I cannot remember the last time I saw anyone paying using cash in a pub for example.

Unless of course the coins actually were meant for throwing. Seems a bit gratuitous though even for Wendies fans. 

Perfectly legal, yet doesn’t make it right.

Online banking is also different to mobile payments. B4 bless his soul hated them, will be many like him, also older fans that are being seemingly forgotten about whilst pushing this through.

The fact so many coins were collected, just shows cash is still being widely used.

[Tyler Durden]

2 minutes ago, Day said:

Perfectly legal, yet doesn’t make it right.

Online banking is also different to mobile payments. B4 bless his soul hated them, will be many like him, also older fans that are being seemingly forgotten about whilst pushing this through.

The fact so many coins were collected, just shows cash is still being widely used.

I don't know what to reply to this as would rather stick to a factual argument then say something should or shouldn't be done.

I do remember when I bought my dad a mobile phone and he asked how would I know when he was in when I rang him so he was able to answer.

I've also been trying gamefully to support team members for a number of months now to access their payslips when the business I work for said that they would no longer issue paper payslips via the post and everything would be captured electronically. These team members don't have access to a PC at home. Or would not be PC literate enough to access their payslips if they did do. 

So am not trying to be unsympathetic. But this is progress unfortunately. 

[Boycie]

I can’t believe @Day vapes? Plus he never goes away?

watch him deny it.

[Day]

9 hours ago, Boycie said:

I can’t believe @Day vapes? Plus he never goes away?

watch him deny it.

Only when I’m drunk.

Home games are away games for me. 

[Crewton]

14 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

When did cheque books get phased out?

They haven't been, but banks would love too, although things like Banker's Drafts are still in use as defacto cash afaiaa. Can't remember the last time I used one in a shop though.