Rampant Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 31Vickers 6 2Wilson 8 35Nelson 7 6Cashin 7 20Elder 5.5 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 7 8Bird 6.5 4Hourihane 6.5 7Barkhuizen 7 5Bradley 6.5 19John-Jules 6 16Thompson 6 9Collins 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Ellafella said: Half-marks allowed; please rate all subs. Closes Thursday @ 18:00. Results by Thursday 22:00. Average is 6.00. Therefore, when a sub steps on the pitch he is on 6 -that'sthe baseline. Also indicate ATG (at the game) Or Tv. 31Vickers 5 looked jittery, reluctant to catch, poor punching 2Wilson 8 this boy can play 35Nelson 7.5 solid defending 6Cashin 7.5 see Nels 20Elder 5 needs more games 17Sibley 6 positive when came on 11Méndez-Laing 6.5 some class moments, should of scored 1st half 8Bird 6 in and out of game 4Hourihane 6.5 same as Birdy but extra for goal 7Barkhuizen 6.5 better, did well for his goal 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 5 see Elder 16Thompson 6 9Collins 7 another goal and non stop performance atg Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 hours ago, Carnero said: Apart from 1 header, what did he actually contribute? Seemed to just miss hit shots, misplace passes, struggle to control the ball, constantly offside, and just generally slow down / take all momentum out of the attacks DCFC Kicks and Returning ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 31Vickers 5.5 2Wilson 8 35Nelson 6 6Cashin 7 20Elder 5.5 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 7 8Bird 6 4Hourihane 7 7Barkhuizen 7.5 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 5.5 16Thompson 6 9Collins 7 ATG Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Comrade 86 said: 9Collins - 8.0 - 17 goals. 17!! Did I mention he's got 17 goals. 4 of those have been pens though, and 5 have come in the pizza cup (2 v a weakened fleetwood side and a hat trick against a bunch of kids from wolves) It's only 8 goals in about 30 games outside of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: 4 of those have been pens though, and 5 have come in the pizza cup (2 v a weakened fleetwood side and a hat trick against a bunch of kids from wolves) It's only 8 goals in about 30 games outside of that. They don't ask how, they ask how many. Time we put some respect on his name. Crewton and Premier ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: 4 of those have been pens though, and 5 have come in the pizza cup (2 v a weakened fleetwood side and a hat trick against a bunch of kids from wolves) It's only 8 goals in about 30 games outside of that. Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 40 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: 4 of those have been pens though, and 5 have come in the pizza cup (2 v a weakened fleetwood side and a hat trick against a bunch of kids from wolves) It's only 8 goals in about 30 games outside of that. 3 pens in league in 26 games, therefore 9. That's one in open play every 3 games, not a bad return 😏 Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, Returning ram said: 3 pens in league in 26 games, therefore 9. That's one in open play every 3 games, not a bad return 😏 4 pens actually as he missed one and tapped in the rebound so slightly worse than one in 3 games, and considering we have arguably the best squad in the league creating chances for him, it's actually not that great Returning ram, DCFC Kicks and Wolfie20 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Buxton's Bat Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: 4 pens actually as he missed one and tapped in the rebound so slightly worse than one in 3 games, and considering we have arguably the best squad in the league creating chances for him, it's actually not that great Sorry to bring it back xg again but he has an xg of 0.47 per 90 mins for this league season which is essentially what he should score with the best squad in the league putting things on a plate for him. That includes pens. Yet he’s scored 0.62 per 90 mins against full strength teams. Stats say he’s over-performing. From footy stats.org btw. Crewton, DCFC Kicks and Wolfie20 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 31Vickers 5 2Wilson 7.5 35Nelson 7 6Cashin 7 20Elder 4 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 7 8Bird 6.5 4Hourihane 6.5 7Barkhuizen 7 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 6 16Thompson 6 9Collins 10 Chris_Martin, Comrade 86, Premier ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: 31Vickers 5 2Wilson 7.5 35Nelson 7 6Cashin 7 20Elder 4 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 7 8Bird 6.5 4Hourihane 6.5 7Barkhuizen 7 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 6 16Thompson 6 9Collins 10 Nicely done Mick 😂 Mick Brolly and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ellafella said: Half-marks allowed; please rate all subs. Closes Thursday @ 18:00. Results by Thursday 22:00. Average is 6.00. Therefore, when a sub steps on the pitch he is on 6 -that'sthe baseline. Also indicate ATG (at the game) Or Tv. 31Vickers 7 2Wilson 8 35Nelson 7 6Cashin 8 20Elder 6 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 8 8Bird 6 4Hourihane 7 7Barkhuizen 8.5 MOM 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 6 16Thompson 6 9Collins 8 TV Edited January 17 by SKRam TV Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 31Vickers 6 2Wilson 7.5 Relentless driving forward even from the deeper position he was asked to play kept the ball so well, great skill and some lovely balls in. 35Nelson 7.5 supreme in the air, used tbe ball well too. Took off half a mark for being uncharacteristically too passive for first goal. Thought he could have put more pressure on Seddon. 6Cashin 8 Solid and takes so much responsibility with the ball to start moves. One right footed chip over their player (when played into a difficult position at the back ) was just a delight, took all pressure off instantly. 20Elder 5.5 Still not sure what he is. More legs than Fozzy is helpful but reticence in defending and attack. Did drive forward well occasionally, put in a decent ball but more often check back inside rather than driving on outside or playing tbe fozzy ball. won a couple of headers but some wayward passing. Match sharpness and confidence lacking, hopefully there's a much better player in there. 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 7.5 it's great to see 90 mins plus of running from him now. Constant threat to them, great assist, some great balls in. But yeah, lost the ball for the goal. 8Bird 6.5 Decent shift. Good awareness to cover defensively at times. Balance in midfield wrong of course but not his fault. 4Hourihane 7 very mixed night. Worked hard, some good dead balls, some sloppy passing and just gets run past easily. Such a wonderful finish though. Once again, can we get him in these positions more instead of further back? 7Barkhuizen 7.5 Not as persistent a threat as NML but great finish, loved to see him pointing to where he wanted that ball and a nice headed assist. 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 6.5 Battled well, some key touched but as others said, we need to vary our attacking play to see him thrive. Trying to get on the end of endless crosses did not seem to suit him. 16Thompson 6 one of the few who can press really well. 9Collins 7 mixed night but huge effort, well taken goal and some decent link up. ATG Edited January 17 by Andrew3000 Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 31Vickers 6 2Wilson 7.5 35Nelson 6.5 6Cashin 7.5 20Elder 5.5 17Sibley 6 11Méndez-Laing 6.5 8Bird 7 4Hourihane 7.5 7Barkhuizen 7.0 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 6.5 16Thompson 6.5 9Collins 7.0 ATG Too late to give a detailed individual breakdown, but I did watch the game again on Sky the next day. That made me mark JJ up, because he did some really good connecting play, as did Bird, stuff that seems to go un-noticed by many. Hourihane was good too, very involved all game. Elder made a mistake early doors as well as being done for their second, and Nelson really should have come out to Seddon, Cashin was already moving across to cover. It's easy to say with hindsight, but we really should have been more comfortable than we were. This is what defensive frailties and a bit of luck do to you. We need to be more ruthless when we're on top so we don't put ourselves in these situations. 1-0 was a poor return for our first half dominance and that's what nearly cost us. sage, Ellafella, Andrew3000 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 hours ago, Ian Buxton's Bat said: Sorry to bring it back xg again but he has an xg of 0.47 per 90 mins for this league season which is essentially what he should score with the best squad in the league putting things on a plate for him. That includes pens. Yet he’s scored 0.62 per 90 mins against full strength teams. Stats say he’s over-performing. From footy stats.org btw. stats will of course say that though as he's had 4 pens which are 0.8xg chances and the tap in rebound from the pen 0.95xg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said: stats will of course say that though as he's had 4 pens which are 0.8xg chances and the tap in rebound from the pen 0.95xg Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Game #3 at PP for me this season 31Vickers 5 2Wilson 7 Still better going forward than as a defender but this was probably his best defensive performance for us 35Nelson 7 6Cashin 7 20Elder 4 Does not fill me with confidence when defending. OK going forward but no more than that 17Sibley 6 Comes on at left back. Is he ever going to get a run at #10 to show what he can do there. Only role he has had a run in was LB for about 14 games last season. Did well. He never knows where he's going to be asked to play. LB, LWB, DM, LW, RW... little wonder he's not fulfilling his potential 11Méndez-Laing 7 When he clicks, we click. A talent but one that needs nursing 8Bird 7 4Hourihane 7 7Barkhuizen 6 5Bradley 6 19John-Jules 5.5 16Thompson 5.5 9Collins 6.5 Ellafella and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said: stats will of course say that though as he's had 4 pens which are 0.8xg chances and the tap in rebound from the pen 0.95xg Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Buxton's Bat Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: stats will of course say that though as he's had 4 pens which are 0.8xg chances and the tap in rebound from the pen 0.95xg Sorry - I'm confused If you look at the goals vs xg for pens/tap-ins he's scored 4 goals from an xg of 4.15. If you you strip out the goals and chances from pens / tap-in rebounds he has 0.41 goals / 90 mins against an xg of 0.21........if you discount his pen involvement he looks even better Crewton and Ellafella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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