BucksRam Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: With results and performances this season we are quite clearly a mid table side, of that there can be no argument. Let’s be honest, without the 21 points deduction we are mid table and we can’t expect to win every game, taking 4 points from the last 3 games is a good result all things considered. Agree. In what is always a really tough league, with several teams thriving on their parachute payments and the nucleus of Premier League standard players, that with a squad of babies and OAPs we're a solid mid table team. This does say a lot really about this team. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I can see where B4 is coming from - the QPR goals were almost 'worldies' which on another day the players might have made a complete hash of - but they didn't and that was our misfortune. I was more frustrated that, when we had worked ourselves into promising positions, a poor piece of control, a poor pass or a poor decision prevented us from testing their keeper. Apart from his goal, I found Lawrence incredibly frustrating yet again - so many times his control/concentration/commitment seemed to be wanting - but he was just one example of players not quite being at it last night. We know we can't afford to have more than a couple of players off form. Let's hope they regroup and put in a better display at Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 I can accept things a bit more if had been awful but we were not I just think and feel QPR were there for the taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, B4ev6is said: I can accept things a bit more if had been awful but we were not I just think and feel QPR were there for the taking. You were watching a different game to me then mate..thats all I can say.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Yani P said: You were watching a different game to me then mate..thats all I can say.. Well we all have opapions about stuff and we dont always agree on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImARam2 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Crewton said: I found Lawrence incredibly frustrating yet again If you thought Lawrence was frustrating what's your opinion of Morrison.? As far as I could see, he had one shot which nearly hit the corner flag; didn't play many good passes; didn't tackle anyone and was, at times, running around neither marking anyone or looking for the ball to be played to him. He should have been substituted at half-time not on 70 minutes. He was truly awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ImARam2 said: If you thought Lawrence was frustrating what's your opinion of Morrison.? As far as I could see, he had one shot which nearly hit the corner flag; didn't play many good passes; didn't tackle anyone and was, at times, running around neither marking anyone or looking for the ball to be played to him. He should have been substituted at half-time not on 70 minutes. He was truly awful. Take a quote out of context why dontcha? "I was more frustrated that, when we had worked ourselves into promising positions, a poor piece of control, a poor pass or a poor decision prevented us from testing their keeper. (For example) Apart from his goal, I found Lawrence incredibly frustrating yet again - so many times his control/concentration/commitment seemed to be wanting - but he was just one example of players not quite being at it last night. We know we can't afford to have more than a couple of players off form." There were nine other players I didn't mention there in addition to Morrison. I'm not doing posts to order for you or anyone else. I used Lawrence as an example because he was so wasteful with all but one of the opportunities we created in the first half and a second goal then could have been crucial. Foreveram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 14 hours ago, ImARam2 said: If you thought Lawrence was frustrating what's your opinion of Morrison.? As far as I could see, he had one shot which nearly hit the corner flag; didn't play many good passes; didn't tackle anyone and was, at times, running around neither marking anyone or looking for the ball to be played to him. He should have been substituted at half-time not on 70 minutes. He was truly awful. What i find is frustrating is fans coming on here slagging off the same players day in day out , win or lose , Kelle, Fozzy, Tom and Ravel cannot win in some fans eyes , i thought this was the season when the club , management , players and fans united together in the fight for Derby County Football Club , sadly it looks like i was wrong Sufferingfool, Comrade 86, Carnero and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Premier ram said: What i find is frustrating is fans coming on here slagging off the same players day in day out , win or lose , Kelle, Fozzy, Tom and Ravel cannot win in some fans eyes , i thought this was the season when the club , management , players and fans united together in the fight for Derby County Football Club , sadly it looks like i was wrong It’s like fans pick a scapegoat and then they always have a vendetta against that player. Keogh, Fozzy, Roos.... I think overall Roos has done well with some good saves over time. His mistakes are highlighted because of his position. Carson was definitely better than our current keepers. Fozzy was poor against QPR but he has had a few matches where he has looked amazing. It’s incredible he has come back from his injury. He can be inconsistent though. Morrison doesn’t pick the right pass at the right time for me but I am hopeful he will have a part to play this season. Lawrence can be frustrating but has ability no doubt. Could be a key player this season. The slate is wiped clean before every match for me regardless of how the players performed in previous match- as long as there was commitment. Premier ram, NottsRam, angieram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 This is one place where fans can criticise the performances of the team and individual players without it actually affecting the targets of the criticism one iota, unless they're vain/daft enough to read fans forums. There's also a difference between criticism and "slagging off", although some conflate the two : I'd never write "so-and-so was absolute ***** today, as usual" or "**** off back to xyz" or words to that effect. What I do detest is getting on the players' or team's back during the game, boo-ing them off, ironic cheering of our goalkeepers, persistent abuse of individual players that I've heard all to often at PP and at away games, or doing any of that stuff on Social Media, particularly tagging the player concerned, which I think is despicable. And, yes, Tom Lawrence does frustrate the hell out of me allot of the time, because he's got tremendous ability that he fails to apply consistently well IMHO, but I reckon Monday's game is the first time I've expressed that on here. Ramifications and Foreveram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, Crewton said: This is one place where fans can criticise the performances of the team and individual players without it actually affecting the targets of the criticism one iota, unless they're vain/daft enough to read fans forums. There's also a difference between criticism and "slagging off", although some conflate the two : I'd never write "so-and-so was absolute ***** today, as usual" or "**** off back to xyz" or words to that effect. What I do detest is getting on the players' or team's back during the game, boo-ing them off, ironic cheering of our goalkeepers, persistent abuse of individual players that I've heard all to often at PP and at away games, or doing any of that stuff on Social Media, particularly tagging the player concerned, which I think is despicable. And, yes, Tom Lawrence does frustrate the hell out of me allot of the time, because he's got tremendous ability that he fails to apply consistently well IMHO, but I reckon Monday's game is the first time I've expressed that on here. Ironic cheering of the goalkeeper - usually Roos is the worst. Not proper ‘fans’ in my opinion if ironic gestures and sounds are made towards your own team! Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Crewton said: ironic cheering This and also jeering any slightly misplaced pass. Helps nobody. Such Dumb asses. Edited December 1, 2021 by Kingpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Ram Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 00:52, B4ev6is said: Well I dont think it was a good goal in my eyes more like hit and hope mate. To be honest, if you say that you haven't really got a scooby. It was a fantastic goal and if a Derby player had scored it you would have been all over it. Yes, the best team on the night won. Disappointing that is was, if you believe otherwise you really are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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