atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: You don't think that money might have helped? ? That's irrelevant to the situation,we didn't meet the requirements to obtain the loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Norman said: Won't commit to the ongoing costs of the club, but some want us to take taxpayers money. The EFL got this one right. It's not our money. The issue isn’t whether it’s right to take taxpayers money or not. If basically every other club got the money, but we didn’t because of the EFL issues (where it’s still far from clear what we’ve actually done wrong), then there’s a major issue of fair play. Carl Sagan, GB SPORTS, LeedsCityRam and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: From the DCFC statement: "These issues also led the EFL to preclude the Club from drawing down circa £8.3 million of financial assistance, as was made available to all other Championship clubs in respect of settling PAYE liabilities, further aggravating our cash flow and ability to meet our financial obligations." So there is no vendetta against Mel? Nothing to stop MM putting his own money in if he cared about the club that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, atherstoneram said: That's irrelevant to the situation,we didn't meet the requirements to obtain the loan And the EFL were happy to stick by their 'requirements'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosythram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Yes but don't let that get in the way of some still wanting to blame the EFL Whilst I absolutely agree with you, the only nagging doubt I have is the slowing up of the whole situation of dealing with the ffp has effectively been death by a thousand knives. It makes me wonder just how the elf expected this to play out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: The issue isn’t whether it’s right to take taxpayers money or not. If basically every other club got the money, but we didn’t because of the EFL issues (where it’s still far from clear what we’ve actually done wrong), then there’s a major issue of fair play. So let somebody prove they were wrong to withhold payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: The issue isn’t whether it’s right to take taxpayers money or not. If basically every other club got the money, but we didn’t because of the EFL issues (where it’s still far from clear what we’ve actually done wrong), then there’s a major issue of fair play. Didn't pay wages on time and won't commit to ongoing costs from what I have read. Seems reasonable to me. atherstoneram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You don't think that money might have helped? ? I think that having a chairman who didn't put his own ego before the matters of the club and run the club in a coherent, responsible manner might have helped too but that's just me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, atherstoneram said: Nothing to stop MM putting his own money in if he cared about the club that much I guess you don't know much about the way businesses are financed he couldn't do it without a load more issues arising with the EFL. Indy and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: And the EFL were happy to stick by their 'requirements'. Well it appears so wouldn't you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: I think that having a chairman who didn't put his own ego before the matters of the club and run the club in a coherent, responsible manner might have helped too but that's just me..... No, it's not just you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, I DONT MIND said: I guess you don't know much about the way businesses are financed he couldn't do it without a load more issues arising with the EFL. Blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, atherstoneram said: Blah blah blah Very mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Perhaps the thread wants retitling, it wasn't our £8.3m they kept. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, I DONT MIND said: Very mature. People still trying to defend the indefensible, now that's mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Morris may not be squeaky clean in how the club have come to be in this situation. But the EFL along with Parry and Birch have certainly done all they can to get us to this point. GB SPORTS, RoyMac5, Steve How Hard? and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: People still trying to defend the indefensible, now that's mature. Can’t see we're I have defended anyone, a lot of fantasy goes on in your head doesn't it Eatonram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava75 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, I DONT MIND said: The king is dead long live the King Care to elaborate on this reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dava75 said: Care to elaborate on this reference? Yes Dava, if we do go down there will be 15000 plus of us fighting to get the club back to where it belongs. Not incessantly moaning about what might have been. COYR # time to fight. Edited September 17, 2021 by I DONT MIND Dava75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Mel is 90% to blame for this situation, 5% COVID, but the remaining 5% is the ducking EFL. They’ve done to us what they did to Luton Macclesfield Wigan Bury etc. The EFL deserve our wrath as well. Duck the EFL RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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