DCFC27 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Ngl if we’re not making a profit how do we owe a tax bill ffs? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Goalkeepers Roos Allsop Marshall Defenders Davies Stearman JBrown Byrne Ebosele McDonald Buchanan Forsyth Midfielders Bielik Shinnie Bird Knight Sibley Ravel Watson Hutchinson Forwards Kazim Lawrence Jozwiak Stretton So we could play 4-5-1 with all academy players if we promote a goalkeeper? mmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 9 hours ago, DCFC27 said: Ngl if we’re not making a profit how do we owe a tax bill ffs? PAYE and/or VAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Eddie said: PAYE and/or VAT? We’ll if we’re making a loss I’d imagine we’re paying out more VAT than receiving… and as for PAYE that would be paid out of the players wages so we wouldn’t be behind on that. VAT is a real possibility but surely not to such a troublesome amount… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: We’ll if we’re making a loss I’d imagine we’re paying out more VAT than receiving… and as for PAYE that would be paid out of the players wages so we wouldn’t be behind on that. VAT is a real possibility but surely not to such a troublesome amount… Employers also have to pay National Insurance Contributions on top of what's taken out of the players wages. That will be quite substantial in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 19 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Guessing he desperately wants to get shot of Marshall to bring in another forward? (As plan B if umbongo not lifted next week). I dont get the Allsop signing, I would have brought an outfield player in first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: We’ll if we’re making a loss I’d imagine we’re paying out more VAT than receiving… and as for PAYE that would be paid out of the players wages so we wouldn’t be behind on that. VAT is a real possibility but surely not to such a troublesome amount… The trouble with tax bills of all kinds is that they are retrospective, so the temptation would be "Let's borrow from that now - we can make it up over the next 3 months" - and suddenly, a cash flow problem materialises for whatever reason, and then you are not in a position to pay back what you have borrowed - so in order to make that right, you borrow from somewhere else... and if the cash flow problem continues, the problem is compounded. Then you need a bridging loan, etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: I dont get the Allsop signing, I would have brought an outfield player in first He may have had another club to sign for and it looks like we are wanting Marshall off the wage bill r_wilcockson and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.M. Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: We’ll if we’re making a loss I’d imagine we’re paying out more VAT than receiving… and as for PAYE that would be paid out of the players wages so we wouldn’t be behind on that. VAT is a real possibility but surely not to such a troublesome amount… We are making a loss - because of high wages which don't attract VAT - so will owe more than we collect. The PAYE (and NI) is deducted from wages, but if we haven't paid it to HMRC (used it to support other cashflow issues), then they may want it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 DET: Kornell McDonald Injury: Hamstring Wayne Rooney said: "He should be fit and ready for Sheffield United in the Cup." Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I think our sqaud is starting to come together. The additions of Jagielka and Baldock was massive for me. I'd still like another 2-3 though as we still are a bit thin. I'd be interested in having Mengi and Garner on loan and maybe a wide man. Would we have Patrick Roberts back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: I think our sqaud is starting to come together. The additions of Jagielka and Baldock was massive for me. I'd still like another 2-3 though as we still are a bit thin. I'd be interested in having Mengi and Garner on loan and maybe a wide man. Would we have Patrick Roberts back? I think we are close to being ok right now and could probably make a fist of it as we are. For my money the priorty order for signings: A quick CB Short term cover at DM (ideally right footed) A striker better than Baldock (i.e. does what Baldock does but more clinical) RW/RAM - Ideally a left footed player DCFC1388 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 As Baldock and Jagielka are replacements, does that mean that Kazim-Richards and Bielik aren't allowed to play until we are out of embargo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ram1988 said: I think our sqaud is starting to come together. The additions of Jagielka and Baldock was massive for me. I'd still like another 2-3 though as we still are a bit thin. I'd be interested in having Mengi and Garner on loan and maybe a wide man. Would we have Patrick Roberts back? Yep. Getting very close to an ideal situation of 2 first teamers per position, with 3rd choice being an inexperienced youngster. GK: Roos, Allsop, Marshall RB: Byrne, Ebosele McDonald CB: Jagielka, Stearman, JBrown CB: Davies, ???, Cashin LB: Buchanan, Forsyth, Williams CM: Bird, Bielik, LThompson CM: Shinnie, Knight RW: Jozwiak, Sibley AM: Morrison, Watson LW: Lawrence, Hutchinson CF: Kazim, Baldock, Stretton If we were to make a signing, it would likely be at CB or CM. The odds of our first 3 CBs picking up injuries will be quite high, perhaps Rooney wouldn't want to risk Cashin/JBrown being backup. Without Knight and Bielik, we're a bit short in the CM positions. A loan until Jan would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Rooney did say he'd like to sign 8 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Yep. Getting very close to an ideal situation of 2 first teamers per position, with 3rd choice being an inexperienced youngster. GK: Roos, Allsop, Marshall RB: Byrne, Ebosele McDonald CB: Jagielka, Stearman, JBrown CB: Davies, ???, Cashin LB: Buchanan, Forsyth, Williams CM: Bird, Bielik, LThompson CM: Shinnie, Knight RW: Jozwiak, Sibley AM: Morrison, Watson LW: Lawrence, Hutchinson CF: Kazim, Baldock, Stretton If we were to make a signing, it would likely be at CB or CM. The odds of our first 3 CBs picking up injuries will be quite high, perhaps Rooney wouldn't want to risk Cashin/JBrown being backup. Without Knight and Bielik, we're a bit short in the CM positions. A loan until Jan would be ideal. 17 hours ago, brady1993 said: I think we are close to being ok right now and could probably make a fist of it as we are. For my money the priorty order for signings: A quick CB Short term cover at DM (ideally right footed) A striker better than Baldock (i.e. does what Baldock does but more clinical) RW/RAM - Ideally a left footed player I agree a quick centre back would be on my list if we could make any further additions. Mengi would be my first pick on loan. I feel we have enough strength in depth at CM but a injury to Morrison, Bird or Shinnie would soon change that. So I'd welcome a six month loan for someone like Garner. For me the third would be another wide man who would impact the game either starting or off the bench, as I feel we are short of numbers of natural wide men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 hours ago, CornwallRam said: As Baldock and Jagielka are replacements, does that mean that Kazim-Richards and Bielik aren't allowed to play until we are out of embargo? EFL gave us permission to sign the 2 extra's due to long term injuries. But they are only 6 month short contracts, if Kazim-Richards and Bielik are fit before the 2 on short term contracts are up we will still be able to play them. Basically we have 26 players in our current 1st team squad, but on the injury list we have Bielik, Kazim-Richards, Knight, Ebosele and Lawrence. The last 2 probably will be fit after the Boro game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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