ariotofmyown Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ketteringram said: I reckon it's a waste of time having a separate queue or terminal for people coming in from amber or red countries. Ok. Put them in a separate queue. What happens once they all clear the airport? Heathrow for example. They're all going to mix together on a coach, train, or underground anyway. The red country people have to isolate in a hotel for 10 days costing 1,750 per person. I really hope there are things in place to prevent any interaction with anyone else, but I won't hold by breath. I was also assuming that arrivals from amber countries would be kept away from others too, especially as they need to isolate for 10 days at home. Would seem stupid allowing them on public transport. If you are charging a fortune for red country hotel quarantines, seems reasonable to get yellow country arrivals much less to get home privately. It's probably a shambles though if the queues are anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 What fantastic news, June 21st here we come ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, TexasRam said: What fantastic news, June 21st here we come ? I hope so - with news like that, it's very hard to justify anything other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, TexasRam said: What fantastic news, June 21st here we come ? No chance for the 21st in my opinion mate , the government and scientists seem determined to delay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Premier ram said: No chance for the 21st in my opinion mate , the government and scientists seem determined to delay it Some scientists and the media i would say but the noises from government are opposite of this..this today from the BBC website Asked about the prime minister's plans amid warnings over the spread of the Indian variant, a No 10 spokesman says: "I was going to point to what the PM said on Thursday." On Thursday, Johnson said: "I don't see anything currently in the data" to divert from the 21 June target for the next stage of exiting lockdown. But he did concede that "we may need to wait" for more data. The spokesman continues: "The prime minister has said on a number of occasions that we haven't seen anything in the data but we will continue to look at the data, we will continue to look at the latest scientific evidence as we move through June towards 21 June." Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, MrPlinkett said: Some scientists and the media i would say but the noises from government are opposite of this..this today from the BBC website Asked about the prime minister's plans amid warnings over the spread of the Indian variant, a No 10 spokesman says: "I was going to point to what the PM said on Thursday." On Thursday, Johnson said: "I don't see anything currently in the data" to divert from the 21 June target for the next stage of exiting lockdown. But he did concede that "we may need to wait" for more data. The spokesman continues: "The prime minister has said on a number of occasions that we haven't seen anything in the data but we will continue to look at the data, we will continue to look at the latest scientific evidence as we move through June towards 21 June." hopefully mate , fingers crossed MrPlinkett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: I'm slightly puzzled as to why people (in general rather than specifically on here) are getting so cross about the prospect of the 21 June date getting put back From what I can work out, the only additional things you would be able to do then that you can't do now are major events and full scale weddings/funerals. Otherwise, life feels pretty much bearable again to me. I can visit my friends/family in their homes, and I can go to the pub and sit inside. The stupid thing IMO was that they ever announced 21st June as an "irreversible" date where all restrictions would be lifted - back in February. If they can't promise it now - at 3 weeks away - why the hell did they promise it on Feb 22nd? But on balance, I'd far rather spend the summer like we are today, than lift all restrictions on June 21st (for stuff I'm not planning to do anyway) and have us end up in another bloody lockdown within weeks Good YOUR ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 4 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: Do the US states have a new variant like we do? Keep it quiet or they will all want one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Archied said: Keep it quiet or they will all want one 5 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: Do the US states have a new variant like we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: No sign of that then. Exponential increase of the 'Indian' variant, yes, certainly. Too soon to tell for definite signs of any repercussions of that, because it tends to take 2-3 weeks for the (seemingly) inevitable to follow. The problem as I see it won't be the 'deaths' figure, but hospitalisations which would have knock-on effects elsewhere within the health service. Of course, if it culls a proportion of the the "Won't vaccinate" brigade, then the outcome of that would be a smaller but more intelligent population. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: The red country people have to isolate in a hotel for 10 days costing 1,750 per person. I really hope there are things in place to prevent any interaction with anyone else, but I won't hold by breath. I was also assuming that arrivals from amber countries would be kept away from others too, especially as they need to isolate for 10 days at home. Would seem stupid allowing them on public transport. If you are charging a fortune for red country hotel quarantines, seems reasonable to get yellow country arrivals much less to get home privately. It's probably a shambles though if the queues are anything to go by. You'd have thought that's how it would work ?. If that is what was happening though , I'd have expected to see loads of people , being guided to coaches , a bit like away fans being escorted from a ground. Maybe I missed it . ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: Exponential increase of the 'Indian' variant, yes, certainly. Still not seen the stats on how it compares to the previous majority variant. 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: The problem as I see it won't be the 'deaths' figure, but hospitalisations which would have knock-on effects elsewhere within the health service. Still low in comparison to crest of the wave! 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: Of course, if it culls a proportion of the the "Won't vaccinate" brigade, then the outcome of that would be a smaller but more intelligent population. Not really, probably just those who wouldn't leave their homes for anything! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Premier ram said: No chance for the 21st in my opinion mate , the government and scientists seem determined to delay it The media and scientists. Every time anything happens they are scratching around for the latest 'expert scientist' who will give them their doom mongering view. Its interesting that other scientists, with the same qualifications but the opposite view would be referred to as 'fringe scientists' rather than experts. The media want the lockdown re-opening putting back purely so they can rip into the Government with 'but you promised we would scrap all measures on June 21st' type questions. Absolute vermin. Premier ram, maxjam and MrPlinkett 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The media and scientists. Every time anything happens they are scratching around for the latest 'expert scientist' who will give them their doom mongering view. Its interesting that other scientists, with the same qualifications but the opposite view would be referred to as 'fringe scientists' rather than experts. The media want the lockdown re-opening putting back purely so they can rip into the Government with 'but you promised we would scrap all measures on June 21st' type questions. Absolute vermin. They are the same media who persuaded the population to give the Tories a landslide. Can't have it both ways. Anyway, this caught my attention earlier... ariotofmyown, maxjam, Grumpy Git and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, ketteringram said: I reckon it's a waste of time having a separate queue or terminal for people coming in from amber or red countries. Ok. Put them in a separate queue. What happens once they all clear the airport? Heathrow for example. They're all going to mix together on a coach, train, or underground anyway. The idea of the red routes is that you are karted off to a hotel and have to quarantine there. The issue really is that I can fly from Mumbai, via Faro in Portugal and then join the green gang.. it’s complicated.. Apologies @ariotofmyownhad already answered. Edited June 1, 2021 by Angry Ram ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: The red country people have to isolate in a hotel for 10 days costing 1,750 per person. I really hope there are things in place to prevent any interaction with anyone else, but I won't hold by breath. I was also assuming that arrivals from amber countries would be kept away from others too, especially as they need to isolate for 10 days at home. Would seem stupid allowing them on public transport. If you are charging a fortune for red country hotel quarantines, seems reasonable to get yellow country arrivals much less to get home privately. It's probably a shambles though if the queues are anything to go by. The queues are not too bad now. Little Angry was 60 mins on Monday coming back in.. I have a friend who came from Miami and was through in just over an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: The idea of the red routes is that you are karted off to a hotel and have to quarantine there. The issue really is that I can fly from Mumbai, via Faro in Portugal and then join the green gang.. it’s complicated.. Apologies @ariotofmyownhad already answered. You would still have to hotel quarantine, unless you spend 10 days in Faro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, MrPlinkett said: You would still have to hotel quarantine, unless you spend 10 days in Faro. Technically but your flight would not land at T3 which is for the Red leper’s. If you want to find a way, you will. in more positive news, the guy who flew in from Miami had two visits to check on him. Not calls, visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Technically but your flight would not land at T3 which is for the Red leper’s. If you want to find a way, you will. in more positive news, the guy who flew in from Miami had two visits to check on him. Not calls, visits. I'm not sure you could even fly to faro? haven't they also banned travel from India etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: The idea of the red routes is that you are karted off to a hotel and have to quarantine there. The issue really is that I can fly from Mumbai, via Faro in Portugal and then join the green gang.. it’s complicated.. Apologies @ariotofmyownhad already answered. Do you think that is actually happening? (Your first sentence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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