G STAR RAM Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Norman said: It was in the Daily Mail sometime last week. Oh God, you've really thrown me to the wolves now! I actually don't read the Daily Mail so definitely didn't see it there. Must have been The Sun or Talk Radio ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Exercise Cygnus in 2016? That's the badger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Cygnus The fact the current government seemed so resistant to publishing the findings suggests that they're left looking a bit stupid But in the interests of fairness and not just being Captain Hindsight, i think if you'd asked any of us in 2016 to take the findings seriously we'd have been pretty laissez-faire too At least now we have a proper real-life exercise to base future preparedness on. As long as it doesn't take another 100 years for the next pandemic. Someone will have deleted the internet by then and all this will have been lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9254495/Stopping-Covid-spreading-hospitals-substantial-reduction-wave-deaths.html Up to 40 percent caught it once admitted in first wave. Wow. No wonder I hardly anyone knew anybody who had it in the first wave, despite massive statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: As long as it doesn't take another 100 years for the next pandemic. Someone will have deleted the internet by then and all this will have been lost I'm willing to bet the discussion on hospital capacity will still be raging in here mind. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 regardless of the restrictions, next week sledges away and BBQs out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 So for months it had been reported that 15% of cases were linked to hospitals. Quite a specific number considering SAGE and the Government have (correctly) been given ranges for everything else. Suspected that the figure of 15% is the lower end of that range and what do you know, they've finally let us no the upper limit and it's 40%. What a shambles this is. Add in care homes and this whole thing has been one GIANT mess. Clap that drones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Norman said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9254495/Stopping-Covid-spreading-hospitals-substantial-reduction-wave-deaths.html Up to 40 percent caught it once admitted in first wave. Wow. No wonder I hardly anyone knew anybody who had it in the first wave, despite massive statistics. And people still won't wake up. Under 500 deaths for under 50's with no underlying conditions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Uptherams said: So for months it had been reported that 15% of cases were linked to hospitals. Quite a specific number considering SAGE and the Government have (correctly) been given ranges for everything else. Suspected that the figure of 15% is the lower end of that range and what do you know, they've finally let us no the upper limit and it's 40%. What a shambles this is. Add in care homes and this whole thing has been one GIANT mess. Clap that drones. I find that figure very hard to belive out of 4m confirmed cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Uptherams said: And people still won't wake up. Under 500 deaths for under 50's with no underlying conditions too. "Wake up" to what? Are you implying that people need to "learn" that people over 50, or that have been diagnosed with a medical condition, simply don't count as humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Albert said: "Wake up" to what? Are you implying that people need to "learn" that people over 50, or that have been diagnosed with a medical condition, simply don't count as humans? Perhaps he means wake up to the fact that in THIS country and specially now with vaccines proper thought into the policy of destroying EVERYBODY S lives is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Uptherams said: So for months it had been reported that 15% of cases were linked to hospitals. Quite a specific number considering SAGE and the Government have (correctly) been given ranges for everything else. Suspected that the figure of 15% is the lower end of that range and what do you know, they've finally let us no the upper limit and it's 40%. What a shambles this is. Add in care homes and this whole thing has been one GIANT mess. Clap that drones. Also appears that the Government have repeatedly refused to release this information, including refusing a Freedom of Information request. We must keep on believing what they tell us though. Remember, what reason have they got to lie to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I find that figure very hard to belive out of 4m confirmed cases It is the percentage of people that have had Covid in hospital that have caught whilst in there, rather than the percentage of total cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Albert said: "Wake up" to what? Are you implying that people need to "learn" that people over 50, or that have been diagnosed with a medical condition, simply don't count as humans? Or maybe suggesting that once these people are vaccinated there is extremely low risk of other people dying from it and its time to give people their lives back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Or maybe suggesting that once these people are vaccinated there is extremely low risk of other people dying from it and its time to give people their lives back. If only the government were competent, and controlled this virus from the start, or even after the first wave. They'd not have needed to take it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Albert said: If only the government were competent, and controlled this virus from the start, or even after the first wave. They'd not have needed to take it in the first place. You forget to mention that the incompetent Government have taken advice from scientists. We are where we are, and yet some such as yourself, now seem to want to agree with the incompetent Government and extend their controlling of our liberties despite there being no valid reason for them doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Albert said: If only the government were competent, and controlled this virus from the start, or even after the first wave. They'd not have needed to take it in the first place. Ffs ,,, they didn’t and that’s that , deal with now , with the vaccines administered to the numbers already we should be opened up NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: You forget to mention that the incompetent Government have taken advice from scientists. We are where we are, and yet some such as yourself, now seem to want to agree with the incompetent Government and extend their controlling of our liberties despite there being no valid reason for them doing so. So you think there is no valid reason for the lockdowns at the moment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, BIllyD said: So you think there is no valid reason for the lockdowns at the moment ? Can probably justify them for anout another month. Anything beyond that I cannot agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Can probably justify them for anout another month. Anything beyond that I cannot agree with. So you'd make the decision to open up the country without knowing if they are effective or not and do it regardless ? Just wondering where you think the government are going wrong at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, BIllyD said: So you'd make the decision to open up the country without knowing if they are effective or not and do it regardless ? Just wondering where you think the government are going wrong at the moment. The virus mutates as a normal process, I don't know anybody can be definitive at the moment regarding what the future holds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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