G STAR RAM Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: 4 of 7 year groups in my sons school now closed due to Covid cases But there is no second wave according to some people... How many pupils have got Covid then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, jimmyp said: Have you ever turned down a vaccine that has been offered to you? I have been vaccinated yes ,, my children have been vaccinated too so this anti vaxxer rubbish being thrown out by those who stamp they’re feet when they must have they’re way is just pathetic, here the simple thing of of it , from day one this whole thing has been a hotch potch of garbled figures , regulations that make no sense and different views from medical/ scientific experts shut down so I’m going to avoid this vaccine for now thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: 4 of 7 year groups in my sons school now closed due to Covid cases But there is no second wave according to some people... But the risks from children suffering from and spreading it were minimal weren’t we led to believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Archied said: But the risks from children suffering from and spreading it were minimal weren’t we led to believe? Apparently so 16 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: How many pupils have got Covid then? They won't tell us who has it, or any concrete details other than "there has been a positive test for someone that has been in close contact with your child". GDPR etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Archied said: I have been vaccinated yes ,, my children have been vaccinated too so this anti vaxxer rubbish being thrown out by those who stamp they’re feet when they must have they’re way is just pathetic, here the simple thing of of it , from day one this whole thing has been a hotch potch of garbled figures , regulations that make no sense and different views from medical/ scientific experts shut down so I’m going to avoid this vaccine for now thanks If you had a mother in her seventies would you recommend the vaccine to her? Obviously based on it being approved. I understand you skepticism towards the figures and regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: They won't tell us who has it, or any concrete details other than "there has been a positive test for someone that has been in close contact with your child". GDPR etc Oh, assumed it was a big number with you saying something about a second wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Eddie said: Y2K code conversion was my life for 2 years. Nobody thanked me, but many thought it was 'nothing at all' because aeroplanes didn't fall out of the sky on January 1, 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: 4 of 7 year groups in my sons school now closed due to Covid cases But there is no second wave according to some people... My wife's school did the same but the cases were teachers not children. It was never published but was not down to children getting Covid. If it affects the pod or the bubble, they close the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, jimmyp said: If you had a mother in her seventies would you recommend the vaccine to her? Obviously based on it being approved. I understand you skepticism towards the figures and regulations. Strangely enough that question would be a horrible situation and I call I would hate to have to make , apart from the haste of this vaccine concerns I have personally I believe that totally contrary to all the gov guff and bluster they’re actions towards keeping the elderly safe have been extremely bad, but hey let’s pump it into them first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'm sure this kind of fallacy pops up quite a lot. Something about the remedy being so effective that the public feel the initial diagnosis was blown way out of proportion. I seem to remember someone posting on here about people's reactions to the Millennium Bug, which was so effectively stopped by those tasked with tackling it that the public thought the whole narrative around it was exaggerated. Was it @Sith Happens? Yeah there was lots of work done to prevent issues, had it not been done then there would have been lots of issues. I spent a few months on it at my workplace...actually met resistant when upgrading systems...'if its not broken why fix it'....well it will be broken if we dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramshankered Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SchtivePesley said: 4 of 7 year groups in my sons school now closed due to Covid cases But there is no second wave according to some people... The same has happened at our daughter's nursery. She was in contact with the infected baby apparently – so no we're stuck paying 50% fees even though we're doing all the childcare. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Archied said: but hey let’s pump it into them first You are Wayne Rooney and I claim my £5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: My wife's school did the same but the cases were teachers not children. It was never published but was not down to children getting Covid. If it affects the pod or the bubble, they close the lot. Yes - the suspicion is that it's staff not kids, but no one is saying. All this stuff about kids not getting it is all well and good until you realise that a school is staffed by adults who kind of need to stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Yes - the suspicion is that it's staff not kids, but no one is saying. All this stuff about kids not getting it is all well and good until you realise that a school is staffed by adults who kind of need to stay healthy Well not really as the kids are safe from them so surely it’s the other areas of the teachers life that’s the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: You are Wayne Rooney and I claim my £5 Quality,,, made me proper chuckle in times when there’s not much to chuckle about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Archied said: Well not really as the kids are safe from them so surely it’s the other areas of the teachers life that’s the problem Yeah - I meant in terms of keeping the school open. If the staff levels drop to a certain point then the whole school has to close as they can't operate. Also - is there much evidence that kids can't be carriers and pass it back into the households? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Yeah - I meant in terms of keeping the school open. If the staff levels drop to a certain point then the whole school has to close as they can't operate. Also - is there much evidence that kids can't be carriers and pass it back into the households? Honestly would be stunned if kids were not massive carriers/ spreaders , they spread every other virus / bacteria known to man but that’s not how the gov played it when wanting schools opened , would have more respect and less suspicion if they just flat out said kids need to be in school as the short and long term effects to them is too much to balance wife is a childminder and daughter a teacher and I can tell you this is having a massively detrimental effect on children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Archied said: Honestly would be stunned if kids were not massive carriers/ spreaders , they spread every other virus / bacteria known to man but that’s not how the gov played it when wanting schools opened , would have more respect and less suspicion if they just flat out said kids need to be in school as the short and long term effects to them is too much to balance wife is a childminder and daughter a teacher and I can tell you this is having a massively detrimental effect on children I'm fairly certain that's exactly what they said. From Gov.uk, "Returning to school is vital for children’s education and for their wellbeing." The original line of thinking (Feb/March time?) was that children aren't spreaders as very few show symptoms. Remember the wide held belief that asymptomatic people don't spread it? Wasn't it the WHO that said this once upon a time? The same gov.uk page says "The risk to children themselves of becoming severely ill from coronavirus is very low". As far as I can tell, there isn't anything current which says children aren't spreaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 595 deaths today. Very sad news. Cases and hospital admissions look to be levelling or dropping so hopefully those figures will start to drop in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 11:16, G STAR RAM said: Wow so you can judge peoples mental state from Twitter... Well, that and when they turn up outside a village school with a gun proclaiming to be his son and get shot by the police https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13168781/man-rifle-school-leicestershire-village-armed-cops/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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