ariotofmyown Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 FFS the boat race is cancelled. I really thought the blues would win it too. End of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Squid said: UEFA demanding 275 MILLION compensation from clubs to delay euros to next year Just don't release any players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, ram1964 said: Firstly my thoughts to all those effected by this virus, those that have lost or will lose loved ones and too all those that will be financially scarred throughout the coming months by not being able to work or make a living through the knock on effects of this virus. May i say that on visiting my local supermarket on Friday evening to do my normal weekly shop. How disgusted I was to discover it had been ravished by the selfish and thoughtless who had been bulk buying. Surely this behaviour only creates panic ,and unnecessary problems. I noticed an elderly couple who were noticeably upset and appeared confused in the store as they couldn't find any of their foods. These people may not have the opportunity to visit other stores or indeed be in a position to bulk buy? Some times I really dispise the irrational thoughtless and selfish behaviour of people and by the appearance of the store it wasn't the minority that had been bulk buying. The world appears to have gone mad! Surely common sense requires to be regained.If your ill isolate yourself. Don't travel or socialise unnecessarily.Wash your hands regularly, keep an eye out for the elderly,informed and vulnerable.Surely following simple guide lines ,useing common sense will help resolve this problem as quickly as possible.Good luck to you all and your loved ones, but also think and respect others at this time. I personally believe the Chinese government are accountable for this, due to their willingness to try and cover this up when the first outbreaks happens in China, trying to protect its own economy rather than take account of the matter.No doubt as this virus devastates the western world China will prosper I have not seen a toilet roll in my local co-op for 6 six days, or any kind of hand wash/ anti bac wipes for a week. Seen no paracetomel anywhere for longer. I trawled around three shops yesterday just to find some milk. My cousins lad had a throat infection last week and Calpol was suggested to get his temperature in check while the antibiotics kicked in - none anywhere. My sister cannot get milk formula for her week old child who is struggling to take milk the usual route. As a result I spent yesterday trawling round trying to find some. Found two in one shop after best part of two hours . Only bought the one as I'm trying to avoid partaking in this pathetic behaviour . I accept that sometimes a primary carer for a very ill dependant, or very old relative may feel the need to do a larger grocery shop to limit there own exposure to a busy shop environment. But the toilet/roll medication thing - please stop it's ridiculous and grossly unfair.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, TuffLuff said: I don’t think there’s a cover up like what allegedly happened in China though, it’s more that the government haven’t acted quickly enough so there wasn’t a basic procedure in place and little consistently with what is happening elsewhere. If there were concerns of a virus in China during November then the chances it was here and other places would logically be high. It would have been impossible to contain. I’m not a health expert but I’d guess that cases in the UK at that time were so isolated that it probably was taken as a bad cold or flu but I have no idea really. It's possible. On Christmas Eve I developed a raging sore throat in about an hour, followed by a temperature and shivers, quickly developed into a cough that kept me awake for three days. I do wonder, I assume it was probably a nasty cold virus as no-one I came into contact with developed similar and I assume they would have, but it's a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I have not seen a toilet roll in my local co-op for 6 six days, or any kind of hand wash/ anti bac wipes for a week. Seen no paracetomel anywhere for longer. I trawled around three shops yesterday just to find some milk. My cousins lad had a throat infection last week and Calpol was suggested to get his temperature in check while the antibiotics kicked in - none anywhere. My sister cannot get milk formula for her week old child who is struggling to take milk the usual route. As a result I spent yesterday trawling round trying to find some. Found two in one shop after best part of two hours . Only bought the one as I'm trying to avoid partaking in this pathetic behaviour . I accept that sometimes a primary carer for a very ill dependant, or very old relative may feel the need to do a larger grocery shop to limit there own exposure to a busy shop environment. But the toilet/roll medication thing - please stop it's ridiculous and grossly unfair.. Its pathetic how weak people are nowadays. My parents grew up during WW2 and knew hardship, rationing, make do and mend. They'd share their last bit of food with family, friends and neighbours if anyone was in need even though they'd got nowt themselves....there was a community spirit. Looks like thats been driven out of us by years of right wing governments telling us there's no such thing as society. Subsequent generations are soft and unable to manage so they panic and don't give a toss about anyone else. A colleague of the missus was distraught on Saturday as she was down to her last loo roll, 3 kids in the house, her husband had to resort to begging work to let him take a couple home. My missus popped round with a 4 pack even though we were hardly flush (too good a pun not to use, sorry....?), the gratitude from the family was humbling....at work today this lady went round the whole school telling everyone how kind my missus had been (we're not close friends, don't socialise with them, just a work colleague), made the missus feel embarrassed really but in a good way. If you see someone loading their trolley up with items in short supply, call them out, point and shout Bamford at them.....we'll fight them in the aisles, we'll fight them over (tinned) peaches.....never, have so many, been so selfish to so few. There's no leadership from the bumbling clown in charge, the Financial Times says the expert opinion he listened to was flawed and based on a different virus, thats why he's changed his tack today, what a Bamford he really is. Politicians like Johnson have encouraged this "everyone for themselves" mentality. We're better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Uptherams said: Very interesting points. I've also come across the idea that people who are elderly and vulnerable, who can't care for themselves, but are not in care homes, could take up accommodation in hotels for a few months, paid for by the government but at discounted rates. Cant help thinking that sounds horribly like the cruise ship experience! Maybe not if it's done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, smiths_tavrn said: Oh dear Bob. I feel exactly the same way about you. Pint of bitter and a bag of pork scratching please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: .... There's no leadership from the bumbling clown in charge, the Financial Times says the expert opinion he listened to was flawed and based on a different virus, thats why he's changed his tack today, what a Bamford he really is. Politicians like Johnson have encouraged this "everyone for themselves" mentality. We're better than this. Intersting that you pin it all on one person. The debate last month was about civil servants and how important they are when Priti Patel was under fire for bullying. Now it is one person's fault. As someone who works in conditions likened to a cruise ship for Coronavirus to spread, from everything I've seen it seems the government are trying to stop mass panic. I could well be locked inside for 4 weeks soon. Off my own back. We've been warned. I don't have kids so will probably volunteer. But the place of work is volatile. They have access to BBC News. Rumours spread. Riots happen. It really isn't easy for any government, civil service employee, expert or any ducker else to make the correct decisions. People are taking cheap shots at the government. But that's just their bias getting in the way of what a precarious position we are in. I got assaulted over a packet of custard creams last week.......let that sink in. What happens if Boris chooses the wrong words on BBC News? Thankfully he is advised by our bright, impartial, critical thinking civil service. Or do you believe he just makes everything up on the spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Norman said: Intersting that you pin it all on one person. The debate last month was about civil servants and how important they are when Priti Patel was under fire for bullying. Now it is one person's fault. As someone who works in conditions likened to a cruise ship for Coronavirus to spread, from everything I've seen it seems the government are trying to stop mass panic. I could well be locked inside for 4 weeks soon. Off my own back. We've been warned. I don't have kids so will probably volunteer. But the place of work is volatile. They have access to BBC News. Rumours spread. Riots happen. It really isn't easy for any government, civil service employee, expert or any ducker else to make the correct decisions. People are taking cheap shots at the government. But that's just their bias getting in the way of what a precarious position we are in. I got assaulted over a packet of custard creams last week.......let that sink in. What happens if Boris chooses the wrong words on BBC News? Thankfully he is advised by our bright, impartial, critical thinking civil service. Or do you believe he just makes everything up on the spot? Politicians like Johnson I said, who over the years have created the selfish attitude we see today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I thought political bias was banned from this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Made it back from Switzerland. Seriously touch and go for a day or two if I would, travel ain’t no joke now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost of Clough Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Uptherams said: I'm very interested in the proposals for supermarkets and retailers opening to the elderly/disabled at earlier times compared to the general public. More of this kind of attitude. People coming up with solutions, not problems. Just like the governments call to arms to manufacturers to build ventilators. But at the same time, it's safer for the elderly to stay at home, with family members doing the shopping for them. You may find one young-ish person is going out to do the shopping for several elderly parents/grandparents/neighbours (and their own household) in one shopping trip. Implementing an 'elderly only' time-slot may actually prevent the elderly getting what they require. Some of the people being abused for buying several packets of loo roll and tins of beans may actually be only buying 1 packet for each household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: There's no leadership from the bumbling clown in charge, the Financial Times says the expert opinion he listened to was flawed and based on a different virus, thats why he's changed his tack today, what a Bamford he really is. Politicians like Johnson have encouraged this "everyone for themselves" mentality. We're better than this. I think you're better than this post too. Our political views are very unlikely to ever be aligned but I think now is not the time for political point scoring. I see what you are saying about lack of leadership but he is facing a crisis, the like of which has never been seen in a generation. The situation is changing day by day. As for Johnson creating this sort of society, isnt this the same society that in the last couple of months were going to save the world? The same ones posting #bekind ? This is human nature that you are witnessing right now, nothing to do with any government policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 hours ago, David said: we was going away to Clumber Park You know how to show a girl a good time .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 You can't legislate for everything ,my next door neighbour is over 70 ,his wife is in a wheelchair .We have offered to do their shopping but he rightly points out they have carers in 4 times a day who have been everywhere. So, we are out of bog roll and bless him he's at Tesco at the crack of dawn trying to get us some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This is an interesting piece on the science & different strategies to deal with the virus: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51915302 Basically by trying to "do a China" and try to prevent the infection altogether, you effectively then have to wait until a vaccine is available before you can start getting back to normal, or cases will explode again. Any other course of action, though, is likely to completely overwhelm the NHS and many more people will die. This could be a very long time, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: The tents for you obviously, not Joel. If it's cold you could invite those woolly cows you insist are dogs to snuggle up to. I dream of living outside in a tent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This explained a few things for me https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/12/21172040/coronavirus-covid-19-virus-charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Uptherams said: I'm very interested in the proposals for supermarkets and retailers opening to the elderly/disabled at earlier times compared to the general public. More of this kind of attitude. People coming up with solutions, not problems. Just like the governments call to arms to manufacturers to build ventilators. It’s coming mate,I know we’ve got plans but I can’t be specific and it will be quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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