England Ram Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Before we had Cocu’s comments about Bogle not being focused when he came on I’d already mentioned to my son that both sets of subs were approaching things very differently at half time. The Huddersfield subs came on and made an impact, ours took an age to get into the game, if at all. The approach we seem to take at half time is a regular occurrence for our subs as well. For those who didn’t see, or who miss the half time due to toilet break or food/drinks break, what happened is: Huddersfield subs- full warm up program with the trainer, small group ball work With focus, individual training and then warm down/top up. Derby subs - Running back and forth across the pitch a bit (possibly part of a warm up), Kicking the ball to each other Like they do before the normal warm up before the match, some keepy uppies, crossbar challenge, and generally a bit of a laugh. Now, I know life can be too serious sometimes, but mental approach and discipline has a lot to do with success in sport. Huddersfield are not the first side to have a set program, more focused than ours. Yes, you could argue we’ve got a good home record, but it could be better. And if we take the same approach away from home your on the back foot as a sub to influence a game for the better. I feel that a much better approach for our subs during half time might help them be more game ready when called upon. They’ve got a good 10-15 mins to get their bodies and minds to a level of preparedness that currently I feel they are not utilising properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I’ve said this for years and totally agree. They come out and have a kick about and then for 5 mins the strength and conditioning coach gives them a half hearted warm up. You’d expect something a little more sophisticated these days with all of the technology and information they have on match preparation etc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Mckram said: I’ve said this for years and totally agree. They come out and have a kick about and then for 5 mins the strength and conditioning coach gives them a half hearted warm up. You’d expect something a little more sophisticated these days with all of the technology and information they have on match preparation etc! Maybe that technology and info has lead to them finding that what happens at half time isn’t that important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I think more important should be that they are fully dressed with Shirt, shin pads etc ready to come on at a moments notice. Not this pantomime that seem to have infected all subs. Last night Mount took at least 2 minutes to get ready and that was quick compared to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 It could be worse they could be pulling out 20 lambert and Butler from their socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Key clubber said: It could be worse they could be pulling out 20 lambert and Butler from their socks. I was thinking more a pint of Burton's finest in the electrolyte bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 When its my round, I limber up for a few minutes before muscling onto the concourse. Trying to get 4 pints of pedigree in the South Stand and deliver them to the back wall shelf in one piece requires true dedication, focus and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Ram Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 A fair point from the OP, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Key clubber said: It could be worse they could be pulling out 20 lambert and Butler from their socks. ...and they'd have to be outside the turnstiles, so they may as well grab a burger whilst they're at it! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: When its my round, I limber up for a few minutes before muscling onto the concourse. Trying to get 4 pints of pedigree in the South Stand and deliver them to the back wall shelf in one piece requires true dedication, focus and determination. Do your mates have to fetch their own pints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 You can tell our season is effectively over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 13 hours ago, tinman said: Maybe that technology and info has lead to them finding that what happens at half time isn’t that important? You’re telling me that in a time when having a hair on your leg as a professional cyclist is a disadvantage to your performance, that a 15 minute half time warm up is not important! Haha I’m fairly certain they could be spending time better than showboating and pinging 40 yard passes. If it’s not important then listening to Cocu would be of more benefit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramchope Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Three years ago I saw Lincoln play and couldn’t believe the level of warm up they did both before the game and at half time. It’s not something I normally observe but it stood out so much against Wycombe’s warm up. The Cowley’s seem like the most thorough and professional coaches in the football league, most teams warm up just like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ramchope said: Three years ago I saw Lincoln play and couldn’t believe the level of warm up they did both before the game and at half time. It’s not something I normally observe but it stood out so much against Wycombe’s warm up. The Cowley’s seem like the most thorough and professional coaches in the football league, most teams warm up just like us. The squad do al sorts of warm ups before the game, with almost as many "trainers" as players. Watching the shooting practice its somewhere less than 50% success. Probably explains why we hardly bother in the game. When the game actually starts after the 10 minute cool down AFTER the 30 minute warm up we usually are not out of the blocks until the other side scores. So I'm not convinced it does much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mckram said: You’re telling me that in a time when having a hair on your leg as a professional cyclist is a disadvantage to your performance, that a 15 minute half time warm up is not important! Haha I’m fairly certain they could be spending time better than showboating and pinging 40 yard passes. If it’s not important then listening to Cocu would be of more benefit! The cyclists shaving their legs is a hygiene thing not a performance thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, tinman said: The cyclists shaving their legs is a hygiene thing not a performance thing. Well, it’s both. It’s been proven to improve performance from aerodynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Nick_Ram said: You can tell our season is effectively over! Oooh no, plenty of time for more off the pitch calamity at PP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagtime Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Ramchope said: Three years ago I saw Lincoln play and couldn’t believe the level of warm up they did both before the game and at half time. It’s not something I normally observe but it stood out so much against Wycombe’s warm up. The Cowley’s seem like the most thorough and professional coaches in the football league, most teams warm up just like us. Different code but our warm up before the game was to actually have the players go through the first level of fatigue before the game starts. That way your lactic acid build up has already started to dissipate so you are in fact running on your second wind as they say. The other thing i found completely different was that the reserves weren't actually in the rooms listening to what the manager's tactics were for the second half. We will also have the reserves riding exercise bikes throughout the game to keep that fatigue level up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, tinman said: The cyclists shaving their legs is a hygiene thing not a performance thing. Really? What is the hygiene thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? What is the hygiene thing? Mostly through it makes it easier to be massaged and when they crash it makes it easier to clean out the wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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