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5 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said:

So let me get this straight, this guy has the US nuclear missile launch codes, right? I know we have a few Trump fanboys on here but how can even you lot watch this 3 minute loony-tune and not think the guy is certifiably insane?

https://www.channel4.com/news/trump-provokes-outrage-after-saying-great-day-for-george-floyd-as-unemployment-falls

 

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18 minutes ago, cstand said:

Still want to get rid of the Royal Family comrades?

Helping shout 85258

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52940787

Certainly. Whether they are good people or bad people is immaterial to me. They can still volunteer to do stuff like loads of other people do. They can even crow about it if they find it tasteful to do so (I'm not sure the word 'secret' still applies though).

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24 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

Yes. 

I wouldn't want him lined up against the wall Wolfie Smith style though (I might joke I am on occasion though). He'd be welcome to carry on just without the castles and land. 

Power to the people TPF loved that comedy series.

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1 hour ago, sage said:

There is still a long way to go. Yes everyone can use the same toilets and bus seats but if you are black you still more likely to be killed by the police. You are still more likely to be sent to prison. You are still more likely to be left off a voting register or have to queue for hours to vote. You are still more likely to receive a sub-standard education. If you go to the states and speak to black people especially in the southern states, they will tell you that things haven't changed anywhere near enough.     

Yeah I've spent the 3 days saying there is a long way to go and trying to put forward why some stats aren't conclusive proof of systematic racism and how some states are comparable to Britain decades ago etc etc. It would be exhausting to go again

But it definitely has changed since the 1920's. Why would the Tulsa massacre need to be brought up? What positive solution is hidden in there?

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1 hour ago, Alpha said:

Yeah I've spent the 3 days saying there is a long way to go and trying to put forward why some stats aren't conclusive proof of systematic racism and how some states are comparable to Britain decades ago etc etc. It would be exhausting to go again

But it definitely has changed since the 1920's. Why would the Tulsa massacre need to be brought up? What positive solution is hidden in there?

it's the 100th anniversary?

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Keep seeing the term black on black violence and black on white violence and people talking about the related statistics.

Out of interest how are these “statistics” defined/who collates them? 

Also do we keep statistics for white on white violence and where can they be found?

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1 minute ago, i-Ram said:

Would it be an inconvenient truth if I said it was 99 years and 6 days.

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Mr Bean and yourself seem to have misunderstood the duality of the role of the question mark in my comment. 

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We can trust authorities to not abuse a Covid19 tracing app. 

If you think this can only happen in the USA, i have a slightly used vehicle to sell you.

 

"Minnesota officials say they’re using contact tracing to better understand who the protestors are and where they’re coming from."

https://bgr.com/2020/05/30/minnesota-protest-contact-tracing-used-to-track-demonstrators/

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

Keep seeing the term black on black violence and black on white violence and people talking about the related statistics.

Out of interest how are these “statistics” defined/who collates them?

I've been using official FBI and statista figures;

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2019-preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-released-012120

https://www.statista.com/topics/1750/violent-crime-in-the-us/#dossierSummary__chapter2

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/statista/

 

40 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

Also do we keep statistics for white on white violence and where can they be found?

2019 figures haven't been released yet, 2018 data is the most current;

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

 

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With everything that's been taking our attention recently. Anyone know how the talks with the EU are progressing?

I did see Michael Gove informing Parliament that the government had no intention of extending the transition period. That they weren't prepared to give more money to the EU, money that could be spent on the NHS Have they recently re-parked that big red bus outside the Palace of Westminster.

Also noticed that Parliament passed a new agricultural bill. A bill that allows for the lowering of standards of food being imported into the UK. Something that Johnson said he wouldn't allow to happen. 

I suppose that we should get use to hearing more and more lies from him and his government in the coming years.

What other laws will we see this tory government replace, to the detriment of the nation? Maybe Employment laws and Health and safety laws for starters.

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