Wolfie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 A December election it is, boys & girls. Let the bloodbath commence......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: A December election it is, boys & girls. Let the bloodbath commence......... It's not going to be very pleasant, that's for sure. I just hope there are enough people willing to rise above the cheap insults and inflammatory language we are going to experience on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Exactly this. If no deal is so bad for the country and it is what everyone is desperate to avoid then surely Labour or Lib Dems will get a landslide victory in a General Election. We've heard for the last 3 years about the Conservatives playing games and the country suffering because of uncertainty, huge opportunity to sort that out, right here, right now. The excuses are drying up and the lack of opposition is quite frankly becoming embarrassing. The only chance Labour would have had of winning an election would have been a new Labour leader ala Tony Blair. Due to Corbyns political beliefs he limits the number of people he is going to be be able to win over in seats currently held by the Tories. He is also somewhat shafted on the Brexit issue. If he did come out and explicitly back remain it would hit his non-London support where most of his constituencies voted leave and vice versa for his London seats if he backs leave. I haven't really been all that impressed by the Lib Dem leader either - all I ever here her saying is that the other two aren't fit to be Prime Minister. As soon as the Tories lost their majority a new election should have been held rather than stringing things out like this. The Tories will definitely be the largest party in any election, but the question is whether they can gain an outright majority. I think they may actually do it this time and if nothing else it will be nice to have a government who actually has a majority to pass some of its legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Tory majority incoming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Tory majority incoming... And because they have spent the last few weeks purging their party, that majority is going to be made up of the kind of Bamfords that even Thatcher would have baulked at calling 'one of us'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 52 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Tory majority incoming... landslide regrettably we shall see but for me it is like having Michael Foot back. It's not just having the Tories back in power its also having that bamford as a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Van Wolfie said: A December election it is, boys & girls. Let the bloodbath commence......... and ladies, just don't tell Brenda yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The tory party regain power by promising leave voters, the brexit they've want since the referendum. What of all the other policies that the torys will implement after an election? How many of the, normally Labour voting, brexiteers who voted for the torys to get brexit, will be happy with the rest of the tory policies. More worryingly how many seat could Farage's brexit party win? What sort of policies could they want introducing. If the they managed to get enough seat, to force the torys into a coalition government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, alexxxxx said: Tory majority incoming... Unless a load of their no dealer voters defect to the Brexit party - who will also steal Labour votes in Leave areas. I'm not saying the Brexit Party will get that many seats, just that they could end up splitting both the left and right vote. It's going to be an interesting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Van Wolfie said: Unless a load of their no dealer voters defect to the Brexit party - who will also steal Labour votes in Leave areas. I'm not saying the Brexit Party will get that many seats, just that they could end up splitting both the left and right vote. It's going to be an interesting one. Or labour promise a referendum and the brexit voters are split between Tories and the brexit party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Spanish said: Or labour promise a referendum and the brexit voters are split between Tories and the brexit party They've done that, though with options of Remain vs their new improved soft brexit deal - which they'll negotiate and then immediately campaign against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I dont know what has persuaded corbyn to accept an election, it is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, 1of4 said: The tory party regain power by promising leave voters, the brexit they've want since the referendum. What of all the other policies that the torys will implement after an election? How many of the, normally Labour voting, brexiteers who voted for the torys to get brexit, will be happy with the rest of the tory policies. More worryingly how many seat could Farage's brexit party win? What sort of policies could they want introducing. If the they managed to get enough seat, to force the torys into a coalition government. I'd be surprised if the BP win a single seat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, 1of4 said: The tory party regain power by promising leave voters, the brexit they've want since the referendum. What of all the other policies that the torys will implement after an election? How many of the, normally Labour voting, brexiteers who voted for the torys to get brexit, will be happy with the rest of the tory policies. More worryingly how many seat could Farage's brexit party win? What sort of policies could they want introducing. If the they managed to get enough seat, to force the torys into a coalition government. I would be very surprised if the Brexit party won any seats at all. We already had DUP in power and there are no parties as backward or as ridiculous as that party regardless of your political views. I very much doubt many labour voters will switch to Tories just to get Brexit, but if they do it will just be a return to the way things were during the Thatcher era with large swathes of the Midlands and the north being Tory blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, ketteringram said: I'd be surprised if the BP win a single seat . 53 minutes ago, GenBr said: I would be very surprised if the Brexit party won any seats at all. They don't have to. By taking 10-20% of the vote in Tory or Labour Leave areas, they could end up letting either of the other main parties in & have a big effect, without actually winning any themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: They don't have to. By taking 10-20% of the vote in Tory or Labour Leave areas, they could end up letting either of the other main parties in & have a big effect, without actually winning any themselves. The chap i responded to was expressing his fear of what policies the Brexit party would implement if they won a number of seats. My response was that they will likely not win any seats. (Even if they win a handful their impact on policy will be marginal). If they don't win any at all they wont have any impact on policy. They wont take anywhere near enough of the vote to let Labour in and certainly nowhere near enough for the Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyth_18 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 This is an absolute disgrace. Back and forth, back and forth. How can we carry on with this government structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImARam2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The Labour MP's just put forward two amendments to be voted on before the main vote on the election date: 1. To allow 16 and 17 year old's to vote. Only Malta and Greece, within the EU allow this age group to vote in an general election. This amendment is being backed by the SNP, Labour and Lib Dems. 2. To allow EU citizens to vote. No EU country allows any person from another country to vote in their general election. If these two amendments go through Boris Johnson says he will drop the vote for a general election. Where do we go to now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, ImARam2 said: The Labour MP's just put forward two amendments to be voted on before the main vote on the election date: 1. To allow 16 and 17 year old's to vote. Only Malta and Greece, within the EU allow this age group to vote in an general election. This amendment is being backed by the SNP, Labour and Lib Dems. 2. To allow EU citizens to vote. No EU country allows any person from another country to vote in their general election. If these two amendments go through Boris Johnson says he will drop the vote for a general election. Where do we go to now? I really doubt that those ammendments will pass.... As far as I can tell they aren't labour policies however they've just been put forward by labour mps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, ImARam2 said: The Labour MP's just put forward two amendments to be voted on before the main vote on the election date: 1. To allow 16 and 17 year old's to vote. Only Malta and Greece, within the EU allow this age group to vote in an general election. This amendment is being backed by the SNP, Labour and Lib Dems. 2. To allow EU citizens to vote. No EU country allows any person from another country to vote in their general election. If these two amendments go through Boris Johnson says he will drop the vote for a general election. Where do we go to now? Not so. Irish citizens can vote in UK elections if resident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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