Carnero Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, whiteroseram said: So U23s without Elsnik, Guy, Walker, Babos, Bogle, Thomas, Vernam and Zanzala. Also without a senior keeper most games I’d have though....bold choice + Lowe + Hanson + Martin!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Carnero said: Can only assume that Morgan Whittaker is moving up from the 18's Good call - he looks lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Pearl Ram said: The rumour when I was a lad was the spire would straighten when a virgin got married in that church. ? I heard that too. And my observation that there were no virgins in Chesterfield didn't go . Down well, with the chessy people I was talking to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I agree looks like Jody and Wassall are reviewing our squad and being decisive and brutal about who will make the grade and who won’t. Hanson Guy Vernam Zanzala Walker all heralded as our next prospects have all left, obviously not good enough as Lowe Bogle Bennett and Thomas have all been involved and told they have big futures. Bird and Sibley are also being talked up. We want our academy to produce but we’re all too guilty of hyping up our youngsters because we’re eager to see homegrown talent when in reality in a lot of cases they just aren’t up to it (at this moment in time). They could always do a Vardy down the line but if that’s the case, probably need the rejection now to spur them on to fulfill any potential they might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: I agree looks like Jody and Wassall are reviewing our squad and being decisive and brutal about who will make the grade and who won’t. Hanson Guy Vernam Zanzala Walker all heralded as our next prospects have all left, obviously not good enough as Lowe Bogle Bennett and Thomas have all been involved and told they have big futures. Bird and Sibley are also being talked up. We want our academy to produce but we’re all too guilty of hyping up our youngsters because we’re eager to see homegrown talent when in reality in a lot of cases they just aren’t up to it (at this moment in time). They could always do a Vardy down the line but if that’s the case, probably need the rejection now to spur them on to fulfill any potential they might have. Who knows? They may be good enough and prove themselves further down the line, and we've mismanaged them so far. Anyone's guess really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Who knows? They may be good enough and prove themselves further down the line, and we've mismanaged them so far. Anyone's guess really. Some players think they’ve made it when they get a professional contract at a club take their foot off the gas and get a rude awakening. Need the setback to spur them on. Marriott is a case in point. Who knows as you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Has anybody ever had a good time in Chesterfield? Regularly. Pink Panther. Happy Days.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Got too assume that the cull within the academy is down to Jody’s influence. A few reality checks & home truths being told. Who’s to say with his academy experience, pedigree & contacts he hasn’t got a few kids with potential who he’s aware of that he wants to bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Has anybody ever had a good time in Chesterfield? Obviously visited the wrong places. Or maybe Wednesday nights might have suited you better. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Some players think they’ve made it when they get a professional contract at a club take their foot off the gas and get a rude awakening. Need the setback to spur them on. Marriott is a case in point. Who knows as you say That’s not what happened with Marriott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 23:04, ollycutts1982 said: Obviously visited the wrong places. Or maybe Wednesday nights might have suited you better. ? Hope you’ve got a good Lawyer mate....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 19:55, jimbo jones said: Yes. Couple of excellent nights out in my younger days ? Aaah yes. Xanadu club in the early 90s and 10p a pint on Monday nights. Happy days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Hope you’ve got a good Lawyer mate....... Hoping OJ’s is still practicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 21:38, reveldevil said: Who knows? They may be good enough and prove themselves further down the line, and we've mismanaged them so far. Anyone's guess really. I've always put the lack of development of players to date down to our previous staff failing somewhat. A little more optimistic now that players like Sibley will get a first class education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Rample said: I've always put the lack of development of players to date down to our previous staff failing somewhat. A little more optimistic now that players like Sibley will get a first class education. To be fair the likes of bogle-bennet=lowe etc been here before the new team albeit Franks given then first team experience BUT thats not to say that wassel and his team arent doing a good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 21:49, BramcoteRam84 said: Some players think they’ve made it when they get a professional contract at a club take their foot off the gas and get a rude awakening. Need the setback to spur them on. Marriott is a case in point. Who knows as you say Oh really? The guy just arrives and he has not had the pre-season the rest of the guys have had and you can say this with what knowledge?????? I would suggest that it is unreasonable to expect every player in the academy to make the step up to the first team. Having Bogle, Lowe, Bennett, Bird and Thomas etc out of a select few is a pretty good return I would say. Also if Jodie is wealding out what he perceives to be the weaker players, then great. Because if we can start to produce the kind of youth that Chelsea have produced then all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, BathRam72 said: Oh really? The guy just arrives and he has not had the pre-season the rest of the guys have had and you can say this with what knowledge?????? I would suggest that it is unreasonable to expect every player in the academy to make the step up to the first team. Having Bogle, Lowe, Bennett, Bird and Thomas etc out of a select few is a pretty good return I would say. Also if Jodie is wealding out what he perceives to be the weaker players, then great. Because if we can start to produce the kind of youth that Chelsea have produced then all the better. I might be wrong but I believe he was referring to Marriott’s release from Ipswich. McCarthy said when they played P’boro I think that he was released as he was so unfit it was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 9 hours ago, TommyPowel said: To be fair the likes of bogle-bennet=lowe etc been here before the new team albeit Franks given then first team experience BUT thats not to say that wassel and his team arent doing a good job Bogle is a once in a while talent, who also appeared at the right time, after an old right back retired. Tomori may well have been lined up for full back duties prior to Davies getting injured. Bennett and Lowe have been around the first team for 7 and 5 years respectively, and I think it's fair to say they should have developed much faster. I think they have failed the likes Elsnik too, he should be at a more advanced level than a mediocre league 2 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Rample said: Bogle is a once in a while talent, who also appeared at the right time, after an old right back retired. Tomori may well have been lined up for full back duties prior to Davies getting injured. Bennett and Lowe have been around the first team for 7 and 5 years respectively, and I think it's fair to say they should have developed much faster. I think they have failed the likes Elsnik too, he should be at a more advanced level than a mediocre league 2 side. Personally I think Bird may be the diamond. Seen him a few times and plays well beyond his age. If he improves every year he will be an incredible midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Rample said: Bogle is a once in a while talent, who also appeared at the right time, after an old right back retired. Tomori may well have been lined up for full back duties prior to Davies getting injured. Bennett and Lowe have been around the first team for 7 and 5 years respectively, and I think it's fair to say they should have developed much faster. I think they have failed the likes Elsnik too, he should be at a more advanced level than a mediocre league 2 side. The step up to first team is the sole pick of the Manager .So be glad we have now got a manager who recognizes the importance of the academy and not just plays lip service to as all the other managers recently seem to have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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