DCFC1388 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Surely if there was a grain of truth in this the last thing DCFC would be doing is have him in for training, no matter how light that was. Im not sure on the details but surely the only way the seriousness of it can be judged is for him to carry out tests and see the results? I cant see light jogging causing anything too serious? No different to him playing with his kids in the garden, he cant not ever increase his heart rate through exercise, its beat for it to be in monitored situations surely? Like i said anyway, it could result in him having to retire, but he could also be cleared as being fine, maybe he might need an op like Mark O'Brien did a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, DCFC1388 said: Im not sure on the details but surely the only way the seriousness of it can be judged is for him to carry out tests and see the results? I cant see light jogging causing anything too serious? No different to him playing with his kids in the garden, he cant not ever increase his heart rate through exercise, its beat for it to be in monitored situations surely? Like i said anyway, it could result in him having to retire, but he could also be cleared as being fine, maybe he might need an op like Mark O'Brien did a few years back. Or maybe it's complete bolleuax? "Just go out there and jog about Chrissy, if you get through it then we know you're ok to jog, if you keel over on the spot then we know you shouldn't have jogged. It's a bit risky, but the only way to test I'm afraid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Im not sure on the details but surely the only way the seriousness of it can be judged is for him to carry out tests and see the results? I cant see light jogging causing anything too serious? No different to him playing with his kids in the garden, he cant not ever increase his heart rate through exercise, its beat for it to be in monitored situations surely? Like i said anyway, it could result in him having to retire, but he could also be cleared as being fine, maybe he might need an op like Mark O'Brien did a few years back. The Club would be 100% aware that they have a duty of care to every member of staff - from players to the tea lady. If there is an issue then I would expect them to have him assessed, then evaluate the results and act accordingly. Light jogging at the training ground might not be any more strenuous than playing in the back garden with the kids but I would guess that from a liability point of view they would be seen as being poles apart if the Club was aware of a potential problem. I think it's BS or at least hope it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Carnero said: Or maybe it's complete bolleuax? "Just go out there and jog about Chrissy, if you get through it then we know you're ok to jog, if you keel over on the spot then we know you shouldn't have jogged. It's a bit risky, but the only way to test I'm afraid". Doubt its as simple as that? If it was that serious he would be retired already surely. People have heart murmers and then perfectly fine after being monitored. Your portraying it that he is unable to raise his heartbeat full stop, lets hope he doesnt watch any scary movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It could explain why QPR haven't signed him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: It could explain why QPR haven't signed him yet. No, they can't afford him. Or he doesn't want to sign for them. Or Heaven forbid, Frankie wants him to play for Derby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No, they can't afford him. Or he doesn't want to sign for them. Or Heaven forbid, Frankie wants him to play for Derby! or maybe deals have been agreed on both and they are not being played because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarrowRam Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 If there was anything wrong with Martin he wouldn’t be jogging around the training pitch. Hopefully it’s just a hearsay and Martin is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, TommyPowel said: or maybe deals have been agreed on both and they are not being played because of that Errr why would either still be here then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Errr why would either still be here then? errrrrrrr i dont kow just a gut feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRam 140.6 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 When it said Abdominal issue I straight away assumed something similar to what I suffer with, IBD/Collitis type issue which are getting pretty common these days. I'm also convinced (may be wrong) that he has had time out before with the same excuse. When quiet you forget you have it but when it flares up leaves you pretty well immobile when it comes to running. I've gone from completing an Iron distance triathlon to being unable to cover 2 miles in the space of 3 weeks. 5 mins of running and I turn into a human muck spreader.!!!! Darren Fletcher had a year out with similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, IronRam 70.3 said: When it said Abdominal issue I straight away assumed something similar to what I suffer with, IBD/Collitis type issue which are getting pretty common these days. I'm also convinced (may be wrong) that he has had time out before with the same excuse. When quiet you forget you have it but when it flares up leaves you pretty well immobile when it comes to running. I've gone from completing an Iron distance triathlon to being unable to cover 2 miles in the space of 3 weeks. 5 mins of running and I turn into a human muck spreader.!!!! Darren Fletcher had a year out with similar. So he’s full of poo then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Every day I check this thread assuming he's going, every day its a Martin discussion. I love this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Martin will go to QPR on loan and they will pick up all his wages........?? If he goes on a free at doesn't matter. Its the wages off our books that is important. McClaren owes us that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, t'oldu said: Martin will go to QPR on loan and they will pick up all his wages........?? If he goes on a free at doesn't matter. Its the wages off our books that is important. McClaren owes us that !! Unless he has a residual value. If this is the case and he goes on a free we take a hit to FFP to the sum of his RV? Thats without even considering that if he leaves without asking we have to pay him off too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, IlsonDerby said: Unless he has a residual value. If this is the case and he goes on a free we take a hit to FFP to the sum of his RV? Thats without even considering that if he leaves without asking we have to pay him off too! He has no RV. We had him on a free. I think his wages might be considerable considering his playing record over the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, i-Ram said: He has no RV. We had him on a free. I think his wages might be considerable considering his playing record over the last 2 seasons. Good point. I forget that we got him on a free considering how good he is/was. The point about having to pay him off still stands mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, IronRam 70.3 said: When it said Abdominal issue I straight away assumed something similar to what I suffer with, IBD/Collitis type issue which are getting pretty common these days. I'm also convinced (may be wrong) that he has had time out before with the same excuse. When quiet you forget you have it but when it flares up leaves you pretty well immobile when it comes to running. I've gone from completing an Iron distance triathlon to being unable to cover 2 miles in the space of 3 weeks. 5 mins of running and I turn into a human muck spreader.!!!! Darren Fletcher had a year out with similar. Could be something in this. DT today states illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 4 hours ago, IronRam 70.3 said: When it said Abdominal issue I straight away assumed something similar to what I suffer with, IBD/Collitis type issue which are getting pretty common these days. I'm also convinced (may be wrong) that he has had time out before with the same excuse. When quiet you forget you have it but when it flares up leaves you pretty well immobile when it comes to running. I've gone from completing an Iron distance triathlon to being unable to cover 2 miles in the space of 3 weeks. 5 mins of running and I turn into a human muck spreader.!!!! Darren Fletcher had a year out with similar. I’ve had to put my sandwich down!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Could be case of better out than in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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