VulcanRam Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Although they did also say play him down the middle. Never bought this argument at all. Weimann's biggest attribute is his fitness, effort and commitment, which is useful when played wide because he can track back and help, which he wouldn't do if played up top. So we would lose that. His finishing and final ball are awful, which is a key attribute for a number 9 or 10. In my mind if we played him down the middle we would lose the best thing about him and gain nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Didn’t Darren Bent say that Weimann was the best natural finisher that he had seen when at Villa? You have to wonder, were Villa soooo bad or should Darren not go into scouting/management when he finishes playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Whisper........I thought he was ok last season. if i picked my best 11 it would include at least 3 players i think we should change before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, RamNut said: Whisper........I thought he was ok last season. if i picked my best 11 it would include at least 3 players i think we should change before him. Depends what offers we get for our players though mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 2 hours ago, richinspain said: Didn’t Darren Bent say that Weimann was the best natural finisher that he had seen when at Villa? You have to wonder, were Villa soooo bad or should Darren not go into scouting/management when he finishes playing? We’ll probably set Benty on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, VulcanRam said: Never bought this argument at all. Weimann's biggest attribute is his fitness, effort and commitment, which is useful when played wide because he can track back and help, which he wouldn't do if played up top. So we would lose that. His finishing and final ball are awful, which is a key attribute for a number 9 or 10. In my mind if we played him down the middle we would lose the best thing about him and gain nothing at all. OMG yes. I'm not saying he's a bad man, just an ordinary footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I think he could play an important role, if used sparingly. If you cast your mid back to the Hull playof games, in the first leg the pressed up to the halfway line and stiffled us making us look very ordinary. They tried the same in the second leg but Wassall to his credit set up differantly, got Weiman to exploit the space behind their pushed up defence and we looked good. I don't want us set up like that for every game but we can use him as a threat to deter sides from compressing play arround the halfway line by pushing up, allowing us room to play a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 hours ago, RamNut said: Whisper........I thought he was ok last season. if i picked my best 11 it would include at least 3 players i think we should change before him. And that's kind of it, he was ok. Ok sums him up perfectly. He won't generally be awful simply because of the effort he puts in, and he has occasional moments. So yes, he's ok. And I do like the bloke; his attitude having spent long periods out of the starting team was first class and his attitude on the pitch is outstanding. But ultimately I'll judge him on how he affects games positively by way of assists, goals and link up play. And that's not been particularly impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Nice lad. Great attitude. Like him . But he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, caymanram said: Nice lad. Great attitude. Like him . But he needs to go. True enough but we need better before he leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbylad92 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 14 hours ago, caymanram said: Nice lad. Great attitude. Like him . But he needs to go. bit harsh, he good enough to have on the bench and bring him on later in games when players are tired! apart from that i agree hes not good enough for starting 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 19 hours ago, Derbylad92 said: bit harsh, he good enough to have on the bench and bring him on later in games when players are tired! apart from that i agree hes not good enough for starting 11 Anyone on the bench should be good enough to start IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Weimann, lawrence, anya, bennett, thomas weimann is the best of that lot at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Redcar said: Anyone on the bench should be good enough to start IMO. Quite. If someone’s not good enough for the starting 11, why should we want to keep him? He’d have to play at some point, so we’d have a player on the pitch that doesn’t warrant his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, RamNut said: Weimann, lawrence, anya, bennett, thomas weimann is the best of that lot at the moment. Not a chance is he better than Lawrence. Nor will he be better than him with Frankie in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 On 15/06/2018 at 18:56, cannable said: He scored or created a goal every 194 minutes for us. If you take 16/17 out of that, which was an uncharacteristically poor season, then numbers wise he made a direct goal contribution every 156 minutes! It was in the build up that he was crap. Everybody was gushing over him last season saying ‘Johnny’s back’ because he scored a few but personally I thought he was worse than ever! Dreadful! your opinion,in mine it was the end product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, Seaside Sam said: your opinion,in mine it was the end product Those are stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Weimann is much an instinctive player.Its when he has has time to think he decision making becomes suspect. He always gives 100% effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Whenever he takes the ball on it looks like a physical duel for him to bring it under control. It's like he is in a rush to do something with it before it rolls away and is lost forever. If he's the best natural finisher of any club ever i would be very worried. If you played him down the middle where more than half his work will be with his back to goal and defenders will be much quicker to close him down i could only see him losing possession way more often than he latches onto a through ball. He's a winger and he's only really any use at retrieving lost causes and stretching the game. On the ball he's a bit rubbish imo but his speed and energy help the team have a long ball option. Especially with a passer like Huddlestone. He's good for about 5 touches before the ball wins the duel and runs away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 21 hours ago, cannable said: Those are stats? lies ,damn lies and statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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