nogbad van 50 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Harrowram said: George Thorne? Where does he fit? On the treatment table,sadly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Harrowram said: George Thorne? Where does he fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Harrowram said: George Thorne? Where does he fit? GT needs to given a chance this season. Last season when he came back he looked overweight and off the pace. He's worked hard in the off-season and looks to have slimmed down. No one can disagree that GT has great ability, just needs to stay fit. I believe that he still has it in his locker if he gets a run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, jimbobram said: GT needs to given a chance this season. Last season when he came back he looked overweight and off the pace. He's worked hard in the off-season and looks to have slimmed down. No one can disagree that GT has great ability, just needs to stay fit. I believe that he still has it in his locker if he gets a run of games. Is a loan the best option for him, then? I don't think we have the luxury of time for him to be able to play his way back into form in our first team and under 23s just won't stretch him enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, angieram said: Is a loan the best option for him, then? I don't think we have the luxury of time for him to be able to play his way back into form in our first team and under 23s just won't stretch him enough. Has to be. He's 3rd in the pecking order at the minute, I wouldn't want to lose Ledley or Huddlestone, and npbody in their right mind would pay a decent fee for Thorne given his injury history. The best option would surely be a loan to a lower Championship side. Didn't we used to have a good relationship with Wigan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, YorkshireRam said: Much easier to score goals in Israel... just ask Nick Blackman It's also easier in league 1, yet we are after Jack Marriot. Have you told Frank yet not to bother? Bangs em in wherever he goes, Sweden, Norway, China, Israel https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vidar-orn-kjartansson/leistungsdaten/spieler/115607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I'm no fan of Hanson but he's a utility man and means that the rest of the bench can be filled with attacking game-changers whilst he provides moderate injury cover for pretty much anywhere. If he's earning a low wage then he's a good bench man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, angieram said: Is a loan the best option for him, then? I don't think we have the luxury of time for him to be able to play his way back into form in our first team and under 23s just won't stretch him enough. It's problematic because short term loans don't exist anymore. Once he's gone, he's gone until the January window as a minimum. And most clubs would want players for a season if they're taking them. He's worked so hard to get back and it must have been soul destroying to be the one player not to get on against Southampton. I do think that a fit George Thorne offers more than either Ledley or Huddlestone. How long will he need? Can he force his way back in before the window closes? If a loan I hope it's Championship, maybe with a team likely to struggle so he can prove his worth, but not help rivals to promotion, a la Bryson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, ramit said: It's also easier in league 1, yet we are after Jack Marriot. Have you told Frank yet not to bother? Bangs em in wherever he goes, Sweden, Norway, China, Israel https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vidar-orn-kjartansson/leistungsdaten/spieler/115607 All of those leagues are probably a worse quality than L1... that's my point. It doesn't negate the fact that even Marriott is a risk, 33 goals is impressive at any level but quite a few players that excelled in L1 have struggled in the Champ. Marriott is more prolific though and therefore less of a risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: All of those leagues are probably a worse quality than L1... that's my point. It doesn't negate the fact that even Marriott is a risk, 33 goals is impressive at any level but quite a few players that excelled in L1 have struggled in the Champ. Marriott is more prolific though and therefore less of a risk i think you overestimate the quality of L1. A middle of the league Norwegian or Swedish team would be a handful for a league 1 side. What L1 has over those foreign leagues is style and tempo of game is closer to Championship. Don't get me wrong, i like the looks of Marriot, a real bulldog type of forward, but feel he is too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, ramit said: i think you overestimate the quality of L1. A middle of the league Norwegian or Swedish team would be a handful for a league 1 side. What L1 has over those foreign leagues is style and tempo of game is closer to Championship. Don't get me wrong, i like the looks of Marriot, a real bulldog type of forward, but feel he is too expensive. Fully agree, I think anything over £3 million for him becomes a big gamble, more players have failed to make the step up than ones who go on to be huge successes so hopefully the purported figure of £6.5 million they're after is just speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: so hopefully the purported figure of £6.5 million they're after is just speculation Peterborough's chairman confirmed this himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, thederbyram said: Peterborough's chairman confirmed this himself. Did he? I thought he'd just said we weren't at their valuation. I haven't seen him state the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, SaintRam said: Did he? I thought he'd just said we weren't at their valuation. I haven't seen him state the asking price. He said they were being reasonable with the price, and that it wasn't anything like the reported valuations he'd seen in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, thederbyram said: He said they were being reasonable with the price, and that it wasn't anything like the reported valuations he'd seen in the press. Oh I misunderstood your post. Apologies. I thought you were saying he'd confirmed it was £6.5m - Carry On! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, SaintRam said: Oh I misunderstood your post. Apologies. I thought you were saying he'd confirmed it was £6.5m - Carry On! Haha, having read it back I can see how it would seem ambiguous, apologies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: It's problematic because short term loans don't exist anymore. Once he's gone, he's gone until the January window as a minimum. And most clubs would want players for a season if they're taking them. He's worked so hard to get back and it must have been soul destroying to be the one player not to get on against Southampton. I do think that a fit George Thorne offers more than either Ledley or Huddlestone. How long will he need? Can he force his way back in before the window closes? If a loan I hope it's Championship, maybe with a team likely to struggle so he can prove his worth, but not help rivals to promotion, a la Bryson. Unfortunately, I don't think George Thorne's fitness problems have a short term solution. I feel he needs a season playing regularly so a season long loan may be what he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 HITC linking Nugent with Sheffield United, as they can't afford Waghorn. https://t.co/EhjBbdIeXA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, angieram said: Unfortunately, I don't think George Thorne's fitness problems have a short term solution. I feel he needs a season playing regularly so a season long loan may be what he needs. I'm sad too @Carl Sagan - he's my second favourite player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, angieram said: I'm sad too @Carl Sagan - he's my second favourite player! Well that begs a question. Spill the beans! He's kind of still my fave. If forced to change, of the current crop I think I'm torn between Carson and Keogh. Which doesn't say much about our squad. I took the sale of Hughesy very hard. ? May switch affiliation to Vydra if it becomes clear he's staying and playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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