Van der MoodHoover Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Doodle said: It only works if we go up like Leicester did. Mel is either being sensible or lacking ambition, depending on your point of view. He has made big mistakes and wasted lots of HIS money. But he’s learned and I suspect he’s being sensible, avoiding embargoes and keeping his powder dry for another tilt at promotion next season when the new 3 year cycle starts again I wonder whether that's why the contracts have been shorter recently. 18 months for jerome/ledley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just now, HantsRam said: I wonder whether that's why the contracts have been shorter recently. 18 months for jerome/ledley? Any longer and they'd be pensions not contracts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Any longer and they'd be pensions not contracts! Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, HantsRam said: I wonder whether that's why the contracts have been shorter recently. 18 months for jerome/ledley? As I said, I think he’s learning. 18 months may be 12 months too long for Jerome, but I suspect he wouldn’t have come for a deal to the end of the season. I personally think we need to utilise loans more. Ok it’s money spent on short term gains, but I will be shocked if like Bent, Jerome does anything more than warm the bench for most of the last year of his contract. 1.5 million on Jerome plus wages could have got us 2 good loans for this season. I would swap the Jerome deal for a loan left back and striker in the blink of an eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Cannot understand how Olsson kept his place in today’s team. He looks scared to get stuck in to any challenge and as soon as he is shown inside he is so one footed that he just plays it backwards. Leeds purposely let him inside every time knowing what he’d do. Yes Forsyth was poor against Wednesday and hasn’t looked anywhere near the level he was before his injury but purely for his aerial threat and ability to put in a tackle he has to play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Scapegoat Forsyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doodle said: As I said, I think he’s learning. 18 months may be 12 months too long for Jerome, but I suspect he wouldn’t have come for a deal to the end of the season. I personally think we need to utilise loans more. Ok it’s money spent on short term gains, but I will be shocked if like Bent, Jerome does anything more than warm the bench for most of the last year of his contract. 1.5 million on Jerome plus wages could have got us 2 good loans for this season. I would swap the Jerome deal for a loan left back and striker in the blink of an eye I agree with that. We used loans much better with Maclaren . Not saying that makes him a better manager but I can't imagine Mel wouldn't have looked at that player resource model and wonder why it couldn't apply now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, HantsRam said: I agree with that. We used loans much better with Maclaren . Not saying that makes him a better manager but I can't imagine Mel wouldn't have looked at that player resource model and wonder why it couldn't apply now. Maclaren could entice a better quality of loans from better teams. Like you, that’s not a reflection of either managers ability. Purely a reflection of the relative “ stock” of the managers. Maclaren was ex England manager and a winner of the Dutch league, along with a fluent Dutch speaker. He also had a reputation of attacking football. Gary is relatively low profile in comparison, not a criticism, just a fact. I think Maclaren would have landed the Lookman deal for instance. I don’t want to write this season off but it’s got to be addressed for next season. 2 or 3 decent loans will make the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, nottingram said: Three games since Forsyth was dropped, seven goals conceded. Coincidence or not, and frustrating as Forsyth maybe, he is better than Olsson. It maybe a coincidence. Forsyths distribution is appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 10 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Any longer and they'd be pensions not contracts! Brilliant,also sad but so so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Doodle said: It only works if we go up like Leicester did. Mel is either being sensible or lacking ambition, depending on your point of view. He has made big mistakes and wasted lots of HIS money. But he’s learned and I suspect he’s being sensible, avoiding embargoes and keeping his powder dry for another tilt at promotion next season when the new 3 year cycle starts again FFP doesn't work like that. It is a continuous 3 year period. So next season it will not take in the Clement spend from 15/16 but will still have 16/17 and this season included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Ram Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 All this debate about Foz or Olss when playing Baird over Wisdom is the most ridiculous decision ever. Baird is not fit to lace Andre's boots !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Ram Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 All this debate about Foz or Olss when playing Baird over Wisdom is the most ridiculous decision ever. Baird is not fit to lace Andre's boots !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 What about the youth team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Waffle said: What about the youth team? Give em another 15 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, europia said: It maybe a coincidence. Forsyths distribution is appalling. Is Olsson’s any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, rynny said: FFP doesn't work like that. It is a continuous 3 year period. So next season it will not take in the Clement spend from 15/16 but will still have 16/17 and this season included. I’m fairly certain we have made a profit for the past 2 summer transfer windows so as soon as the clement summer is gone we should have a lot more to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, nottingram said: Is Olsson’s any better? marginally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Towards the end of last season, one of the lads I sit with was saying he hoped that Baird would stay with us for another year - I said at the time that we could forget about getting promoted if we were relying on 86 year-old Baird at right back - seems I've been proven right. Happy to have Baird in the squad as emergency cover across the back 4, but he should only be starting if we don't have anyone else..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: I’m fairly certain we have made a profit for the past 2 summer transfer windows so as soon as the clement summer is gone we should have a lot more to play with. Let's hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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