JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I am curious to see how we as a group feel we are performing based on our expectations prior to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Interesting choice of words Juan. Performances are about where I'd expect them. Maybe slightly ahead as vydra has been a pleasant surprise. Results have been miles ahead but I think we will slip back a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 I couldn't find a better way to split the performances v results discussion so I left it deliberately vague so people can make their own call. My expectation was we would play solid, unspectacular football and finish relatively comfortably in the playoffs, as it stands we are exceeding that but come the end of the season that might be exactly what we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 At the beginning I had us for a mid table side, no more. Then the pairing of Keogh and Davies clicked which together with Baird locked in the defence. Ledley and Hudd shored up midfield. Attack is still inconsistent both in terms of players and style but we got the goals and goal difference will be important I feel. Fozzy and GT coming back in hasn't helped which together with poor form by Lawrence has led to our usual new year slump. I know we aren't losing but we are dropping points we should not. Saturday was another game where right from kick off you could tell we weren't on it. This is a Derby trait I have commented on before. We never pick it up if we start slow. Never mind 95 th minute supporters you could make your mind up after 10 and head home. I think if our "wingers" and attacking midfielders are not sorted out soon we will drift down the table, probably 5 or 6 place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Get Ledley back in the team and match fit and we will be rocking again. I think Palmer could be the sort of player to come in, keep his place and show us that he's worth the 10M we will pay for him when we move the Premier League next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: I couldn't find a better way to split the performances v results discussion so I left it deliberately vague so people can make their own call. My expectation was we would play solid, unspectacular football and finish relatively comfortably in the playoffs, as it stands we are exceeding that but come the end of the season that might be exactly what we get. About where i am with the season. I personally would've accepted upper mid table at the start of the season and give it a transition let off. We're well ahead of that and slipping back at this point would be worrying unless we get struck by injuries etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 At the beginning I thought our squad and experience was top 4 so I put my money on it ( looking for a return) as we now sit I still feel that way but I do feel we are weaker following the January transfer window as I don’t see a real spark on the pitch and we will have to out team others sides and we will against some but not all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Carson and Vyds have meant our results are better than our performances. In the Championship goalscorers are at a premium so it is only right we are at the top end of the table but I'd love us to destroy the opposing side I've just never thought we were capable (some moaned about the Hull game but I didn't see it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Although I put meeting expectations, I have to caveat that with this was I believed the squad we had at our disposal was capable off. I must admit I didn’t (and still don’t) beleive GR was the man that would take us to the PL and therefore he is doing better than I expected, and I hope he continues to prove I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Our performances tend to be staccato at best. You can feel that the home crowd can really get behind the team but there is a weird atmosphere. The fans seem not to be able to believe that we are genuine challengers for the auto spot, largely based on performance rather than result. We don’t dominate and have attack after attack. Our “keep the defensive shape and quick on the counter” strategy is not conducive to producing a good atmosphere in the stands. In a nutshell, there is nothing to cheer! On Saturday, bar the goal, the only time the crowd got going was immediately after the penalty save and only for a few mins since we went straight back into our shell on the out pitch. In answer to OP question, I feel we’re ahead of where most supporters thought we’d be but the nagging feeling is that our overall play shows we’re punching above our weight. It’s a tiring watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, FindernRam said: At the beginning I had us for a mid table side, no more. Then the pairing of Keogh and Davies clicked which together with Baird locked in the defence. Ledley and Hudd shored up midfield. Attack is still inconsistent both in terms of players and style but we got the goals and goal difference will be important I feel. Fozzy and GT coming back in hasn't helped which together with poor form by Lawrence has led to our usual new year slump. I know we aren't losing but we are dropping points we should not. Saturday was another game where right from kick off you could tell we weren't on it. This is a Derby trait I have commented on before. We never pick it up if we start slow. Never mind 95 th minute supporters you could make your mind up after 10 and head home. I think if our "wingers" and attacking midfielders are not sorted out soon we will drift down the table, probably 5 or 6 place. Agree with all you have said especially the attacking midfielders that's were most of our problems are they area giving us very little at the moment Problem is lack of options to change it because whoever we try are no better Think we have to try Weimann for Lawrence and maybe Palmer for Anya although Anya has done OK or even put BJ on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I was expecting something akin to Pearson Mk2, or probably even worse, given the loss of our two most creative players. Early performances and results did nothing to contradict that, so what we have now is a revelation. Our defensive solidity is not something I expected to see in a Derby side any time soon, and that is a great place to build from. We are still a work in progress, so challenging for automatics at this point is a serious overachievement. That said, my expectometer has now swung wildly in the other direction, so I will be inconsolable if we don’t go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, FindernRam said: At the beginning I had us for a mid table side, no more. Then the pairing of Keogh and Davies clicked which together with Baird locked in the defence. Ledley and Hudd shored up midfield. Attack is still inconsistent both in terms of players and style but we got the goals and goal difference will be important I feel. Fozzy and GT coming back in hasn't helped which together with poor form by Lawrence has led to our usual new year slump. I know we aren't losing but we are dropping points we should not. Saturday was another game where right from kick off you could tell we weren't on it. This is a Derby trait I have commented on before. We never pick it up if we start slow. Never mind 95 th minute supporters you could make your mind up after 10 and head home. I think if our "wingers" and attacking midfielders are not sorted out soon we will drift down the table, probably 5 or 6 place. So above your expectations then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justa Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 League position is was above expectation for me particularly after selling Hughes etc The way we are playing/performance isn’t slightly down on our league position for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Results better than expected. Style of football and control of matches are pretty much as expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Willow Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 The cohesion inside the team is a much better than previous seasons. I was estimating a mid-table finish (6th-10th) at the beginning of the season. It's still too early to make any conclusions about the overall achievements. But, so far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Miles ahead of where I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, eddie said: Miles ahead of where I thought. yep same here. After Bristol I thought we probably wouldn't finish above Florist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BathRam72 said: So above your expectations then? At the moment. As I said I expect a drift down. If we finish in playoffs I'll be disappointed we didn't go up automatically but will be pleased for the season as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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