ossieram Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Ewe Ram said: I support safe standing. As of now we don't have it so why do people feel they should stand? I have stood through away games and wanted to sit. There's my seat, can I sit? No. People who want to sit because they can't or don't want to stand should be able to, those who stand are being selfish. It's not going to hurt them is it? It is selfish to stand when the people behind you want to sit, but I have been at games where we have asked the people behind us if they would like to swap seats so that we can stand and we have basically been to told to piss off because they paid for them seats. We were not aggressive and the seats we offered gave them exactly the same view but one row further forward. We could have been a***holes and stood just to wind them up or try to force the issue but we didn't. But moving seats wouldn't have hurt them and we could have all enjoyed the game a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The best example was at the friendly against Kaiserslautern, where there were substantial standing areas for both home and away fans. For some reason, the game seemed to attract a large contingent of ageing DLF types who were having a whale of a time singing God Save the Queen and Rule Britannia in the standing section. The more peaceful Rams fans like myself were able to relax and enjoy the game in the seated area next door. The only problem occurred when the German police penned in all of the Derby fans under the stand for about fifteen minutes after the game, with one older lady protesting that she definitely didn't want to walk back into town with that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 13 hours ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: The best example was at the friendly against Kaiserslautern, where there were substantial standing areas for both home and away fans. For some reason, the game seemed to attract a large contingent of ageing DLF types who were having a whale of a time singing God Save the Queen and Rule Britannia in the standing section. The more peaceful Rams fans like myself were able to relax and enjoy the game in the seated area next door. The only problem occurred when the German police penned in all of the Derby fans under the stand for about fifteen minutes after the game, with one older lady protesting that she definitely didn't want to walk back into town with that lot. D, D, DLF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @David maybe a chance for some dcfcfans.uk merchandise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just got my credit card statement - reminded me to ask how this went? @therams69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Very well Angie ... As a collective fan base we raised just over 3 figures for the campaign so happy days. It is still ongoing. The winner of the competition has been announced and I have been in contact with them to meet up. Sorry its not you Angie!! x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, therams69 said: Very well Angie ... As a collective fan base we raised just over 3 figures for the campaign so happy days. It is still ongoing. The winner of the competition has been announced and I have been in contact with them to meet up. Sorry its not you Angie!! x Thanks for the feedback and I really appreciate that you did something on behalf of fans of DCFC. I see from their website there are some big clubs involved, just pleased we are an the map as willing to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 That's okay. Nice of DCFC to donate something for the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/17/shrewsbury-town-crowdfunding-safe-standing-montgomery-waters-meadow-ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41650543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 We played our part guys! It doesn't stop there though lets be honest... This is just a massive stepping stone to Derby County being allowed / permitted to install safe standing should they want too. Which I am sure they will do. Said from day 1 to the directors at DCFC I wanted us to be one of the first clubs to introduce it at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans They’ll never allow safe standing in the prem. The likes of arsenal dont want working class fans. They want tourists paying £90 a ticket. They want a different class of fan. Football unfortunately has moved on from ‘the good old days’ and the experiance of going to the ground has changed to a day out & tourist attraction at the top level As for going to away games for people with kids, i just sit in the home end. The opposition in this division rarely sells out at home. You can easily book online & you can sit in comfort around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch in the family end & not near some of the specialists away ends attract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 15 September 2017 at 12:45, B4ev6is said: I remmber chalton away a few seasons ago just because one disabled man could not see we were all made sit down and everyone was arguing with stwards he upset a little boy and i tried to cornfort him. But i remmber saying why not just open upper stand. Everyone who wanted to stand can and anyone who wants to sit stand can on lower stand by oh no they are not allowed to do this. Sometimes common scence does appley to some clubs. But why spoil everyone else fun. Yeah b******* to the disabled man. He shouldn't be going to games - ruining it for all the lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans They’ll never allow safe standing in the prem. The likes of arsenal dont want working class fans. They want tourists paying £90 a ticket. They want a different class of fan. Football unfortunately has moved on from ‘the good old days’ and the experiance of going to the ground has changed to a day out & tourist attraction at the top level As for going to away games for people with kids, i just sit in the home end. The opposition in this division rarely sells out at home. You can easily book online & you can sit in comfort around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch in the family end & not near some of the specialists away ends attract Standing was banned by the people who tried to stitch up Liverpool fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans They’ll never allow safe standing in the prem. The likes of arsenal dont want working class fans. They want tourists paying £90 a ticket. They want a different class of fan. Football unfortunately has moved on from ‘the good old days’ and the experiance of going to the ground has changed to a day out & tourist attraction at the top level As for going to away games for people with kids, i just sit in the home end. The opposition in this division rarely sells out at home. You can easily book online & you can sit in comfort around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch in the family end & not near some of the specialists away ends attract What do you feel is unsafe about safe standing? Have you seen how it is designed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 One things for sure. Safe standing is a lot safer than what we have now, which is some b****** compromise between standing when it's not strictly allowed but tolerated, with the attendant risk of damaged shins and toppling over the seats in front, compared to standing with rail seats which prevent crushing and toppling over. The best answer is the simplest, safe standing can't come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 7 hours ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans They’ll never allow safe standing in the prem. The likes of arsenal dont want working class fans. They want tourists paying £90 a ticket. They want a different class of fan. Football unfortunately has moved on from ‘the good old days’ and the experiance of going to the ground has changed to a day out & tourist attraction at the top level As for going to away games for people with kids, i just sit in the home end. The opposition in this division rarely sells out at home. You can easily book online & you can sit in comfort around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch in the family end & not near some of the specialists away ends attract I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but what a load of crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 12 hours ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans They’ll never allow safe standing in the prem. The likes of arsenal dont want working class fans. They want tourists paying £90 a ticket. They want a different class of fan. Football unfortunately has moved on from ‘the good old days’ and the experiance of going to the ground has changed to a day out & tourist attraction at the top level As for going to away games for people with kids, i just sit in the home end. The opposition in this division rarely sells out at home. You can easily book online & you can sit in comfort around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch in the family end & not near some of the specialists away ends attract More than welcome to share an opinion G-Ram but let me counter it if I may... Standing was not fully banned. Standing on a terrace in the top division was though. It was banned because of what happened at Hillsborough and probably rightly so at the time the Taylor Report was correct. It is outdated though now and not relevant in todays game in my opinion. Is there a risk with safe standing? The name gives it away if being honest. It has worked excellently in Germany for years. On a recent visit and talk with the Hannover supporter liaison officer they had recorded no injuries in the safe standing areas yet had injuries in the seated areas. Anything happened at Celtic? No is the answer. Fans are going to stand. That is not going to go away. Aware these are the rules but it doesn't happen. You have to react and solve it. So if you think seating eliminates a risk then you are sadly misguided. Recent event in France wasn't there with fans surging forward in a seated area. Many injured. Safe Standing rail seats would have prevented this. Re the hooliganism. You seem to be presuming that a hooligan is only a hooligan if they are allowed to stand. Pretty sure a hooligan that wishes to cause trouble would still be a hooligan but they would just be in a seated area so not buying that. Seeing as you like rules. You are clearly breaking the rules of your ticket conditions in entering a home end whilst supporting the away team. Unfortunately this outweighs the comfort of you sitting around the halfway line with a better view of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 hours ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason... ... which no longer applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 hours ago, G-Ram said: I disagree with it. Standing was banned for a reason. If there is a risk of anything happening again due to safe standing why bother taking it? Seating eliminates that risk & sitting down are the rules im afraid. If you’re stood up infront of someone sitting you’re just selfish and desrve to be ejected from the ground. I get some people are genuine offering to swap seats etc & Most people will behaved but standing does attract a minority of herbers. Stone Island jumpers, burberry hats you know the sorts. Wannabe football hooligans You sound rather prejudice. Standing isn't banned. Terracing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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