NottsRam77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 8 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: 1.2 million buy out gives you an idea of how good he is... He's not.. He's absolutely bang average and I'd he hadn't scored against Derby last season his name wouldn't even get a mention. Jesus iv had it all wrong about bradley johnson, after all norwich valued him at 6m english pounds so he must be amazing right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Jesus iv had it all wrong about bradley johnson, after all norwich valued him at 6m english pounds so he must be amazing right ? As a bit Scottish I assume you mean the UK pound. Anyway what other pound would they value him at? The Sudanese pound? The Egyptian pound? The Lebanese pound? Surely not the Syrian pound? Could be the Manx pound I suppose...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, NottsRam77 said: Jesus iv had it all wrong about bradley johnson, after all norwich valued him at 6m english pounds so he must be amazing right ? I fail to see any relevance or correlation between what I said and the amount paid for Bradley Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Strange yearnings said: As a bit Scottish I assume you mean the UK pound. Anyway what other pound would they value him at? The Sudanese pound? The Egyptian pound? The Lebanese pound? Surely not the Syrian pound? Could be the Manx pound I suppose...... Sorry i forgot about scotland .... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, gccrowdpleaser said: I fail to see any relevance or correlation between what I said and the amount paid for Bradley Johnson. u said that cos burton put a 1.2m release clause in his contract it means he cant be any good. so burton will let him go for 1.2m... so by your reckoning he cant be any good norwich by want of a different transfer method let bradley go for 6m... different process but your interpretation suggests that one must be crap and one must be ace based on by how much their resepctive clubs will let them go for. Maybe lost in translation but it reads as a stupid comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 And 5 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Sorry i forgot about scotland .... ? And why wouldnt you ? s**** football s**** footballers, all need sending back north of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: u said that cos burton put a 1.2m release clause in his contract it means he cant be any good. so burton will let him go for 1.2m... so by your reckoning he cant be any good norwich by want of a different transfer method let bradley go for 6m... different process but your interpretation suggests that one must be crap and one must be ace based on by how much their resepctive clubs will let them go for. Maybe lost in translation but it reads as a stupid comment It's not a stupid comment and there is still no relevance. A buy out clause is not a valuation on the player themselves. It's an indication of what a club feels it will cost to replace that player in the event that they are sold. I also didn't say he isn't any good. The direct quote is that he is 'bang average'. There are tens of bang average players in the Championship. Some are worth less than that. Some are worth more. I'm saying that had he not scored against Derby he wouldn't get so much as a mention. I'm also saying that Burton happily committed to a contract where they believe they can adequately replace him for 1.2million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 bang average and isnt any good equate to the same thing in my book they both do nothing to get you where u want to be As for the valuation thing lets just leave it there shall we and put it down to lost in translation as it could get tedious for all concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, gccrowdpleaser said: It's not a stupid comment and there is still no relevance. A buy out clause is not a valuation on the player themselves. It's an indication of what a club feels it will cost to replace that player in the event that they are sold. I also didn't say he isn't any good. The direct quote is that he is 'bang average'. There are tens of bang average players in the Championship. Some are worth less than that. Some are worth more. I'm saying that had he not scored against Derby he wouldn't get so much as a mention. I'm also saying that Burton happily committed to a contract where they believe they can adequately replace him for 1.2million. As Irvine had a buy out clause at Ross County it can be assumed that he requested one be put in when he transferred to Burton. Burton signed him for a record deal, believed to be £600k so they have effectively doubled their money. They have also been trying to negotiate a new contract with Irvine to remove/increase the buy out clause for a while now, so they obviously rate him higher than £1.2m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 17 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: 1.2 million buy out gives you an idea of how good he is... He's not.. He's absolutely bang average and I'd he hadn't scored against Derby last season his name wouldn't even get a mention. You a Huddlestone fan by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 9 hours ago, NottsRam77 said: u said that cos burton put a 1.2m release clause in his contract it means he cant be any good. so burton will let him go for 1.2m... so by your reckoning he cant be any good norwich by want of a different transfer method let bradley go for 6m... different process but your interpretation suggests that one must be crap and one must be ace based on by how much their resepctive clubs will let them go for. Maybe lost in translation but it reads as a stupid comment Don't be so hard on yourself!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If irvine goes will it see a Clough move for Bryson on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 9 hours ago, rynny said: As Irvine had a buy out clause at Ross County it can be assumed that he requested one be put in when he transferred to Burton. Burton signed him for a record deal, believed to be £600k so they have effectively doubled their money. They have also been trying to negotiate a new contract with Irvine to remove/increase the buy out clause for a while now, so they obviously rate him higher than £1.2m. He cost £330k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, secretsquirrel said: If irvine goes will it see a Clough move for Bryson on loan? Jamie hanson,hometown club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 3 hours ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: You a Huddlestone fan by any chance? How have you gleaned that from what's been said? Zero mention of Huddlestone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hennessey Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, secretsquirrel said: If irvine goes will it see a Clough move for Bryson on loan? I'd said Bryson or Hanson..... 1 hour ago, secretsquirrel said: If irvine goes will it see a Clough move for Bryson on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 22 hours ago, gccrowdpleaser said: 1.2 million buy out gives you an idea of how good he is... He's not.. He's absolutely bang average and I'd he hadn't scored against Derby last season his name wouldn't even get a mention. Right now bang average would be an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, King Kevin said: Right now bang average would be an upgrade. Hear hear ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Says a lot that in our transfer thread we are talking about someone who signed for another team. Could this be a season where we get interested in Jim White? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Buy-out clauses aren't simply down to the club. Players tend to ask for them to be put in, with lower clauses being better for the player. £1.2 million doesn't mean that Clough thinks that's all he's worth.It means that when Irvine was signed that's as low as they were willing to go for a release clause. In an ideal world I'm sure Clough would've slapped a £5 million release clause on him, but if the player isn't going to agree to it, there's no point, as they won't sign and you'll miss out on one of your top targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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