MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I am really excited to see the types of players Rowett brings into the club. The stories we read on these twitter accounts for players we are linked with seem nothing more than lazy journalism, if they can even be classed as that. Players like Mooy, Aden Flint, every player we are linked with are valued massively and mentioned in the same breath as Aston Villa. Trying to buy players in England from the championship proved worthless last season, Kodjia, Lansbury, Chester, all players we were supposedly linked with, all ending up at Villa. I trust Rowett to cast his net further afield and I can see the trip to Germany being more than just a pre-season game. I predict one of our signings to be called Wolfgang or Hugo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG400 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just go over to LTLF. Plenty of pond life in there, it'll be easy to get a bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 As has been mentioned on other threads, many aren't sure what value for money looks like the past few windows. I think we need to be wise in how we spend money. Players like Mooy and Tammy Abraham would be fantastic additions for us, and I'm happy with the links (whether lazy or not) as they would more than likely be loans, so although their value has risen it would still be viable financially. Buying Aiden Flint for £5mill would be silly IMO. It's paying a premium for a player after a good season. We need to look at the players low on value - out of favour, playing poorly but with pedigree etc. Players values seem to go up and down a lot more frequently in the current climate. I also think the players GR wants to add aren't your typical expensive flashy signings. He wants a few in who can add physicality, battle and desire to this team. The sort of player that can be found in any league for a decent fee. I'd expect him to be looking both here and overseas (sorry for the length...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Agree with this and excited to see what GR comes up with. He's well used to working with no budget. It's a skill and I'd hope he would take the same careful meticulous approach regardless of budget. I find the cash we've splashed about and wasted as a bit of an insult to be honest. I like how he's talked about characters, qualities and balance in recruitment. I'd value that higher than 'pedigree' or prior year performance. Fans get way too excited about players who've had one good season for a different team. Give me Bucko or Eustace type players to compliment existing talents any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 6 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I predict one of our signings to be called Wolfgang or Hugo. I don't think so. Uk based in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 We haven't underpaid for a player since mac 1 with Ince. Be nice to get back to some good financial discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, RamNut said: I don't think so. Uk based in my opinion. Not so sure. I can recall rowett saying early on in the job the value is abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Rowett sent scouts to a match between FC Koln and Hertha Berlin earlier in the season, so you could well be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 It's the unsung players that will be our biggest benefit. The Darryl Powell types rather than the Giorgi Kinkladzes. And we'll be all the better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 6 hours ago, r4derby said: As has been mentioned on other threads, many aren't sure what value for money looks like the past few windows. I think we need to be wise in how we spend money. Players like Mooy and Tammy Abraham would be fantastic additions for us, and I'm happy with the links (whether lazy or not) as they would more than likely be loans, so although their value has risen it would still be viable financially. Buying Aiden Flint for £5mill would be silly IMO. It's paying a premium for a player after a good season. We need to look at the players low on value - out of favour, playing poorly but with pedigree etc. Players values seem to go up and down a lot more frequently in the current climate. I also think the players GR wants to add aren't your typical expensive flashy signings. He wants a few in who can add physicality, battle and desire to this team. The sort of player that can be found in any league for a decent fee. I'd expect him to be looking both here and overseas (sorry for the length...) The exact same words I say to the missus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 My biggest gripe is that we've been paying millions for someone else's scouting in recent seasons. Think about the fees paid for Johnson, Butterfield, Anya, Blackman, Weimann, Vydra and more. Then think about the fees they commanded in the transfer before they joined us. Almost all of their transfer values went up by over 100%, but none of them were significantly better players than when they joined their previous club. Why can't we skip out the middle part and sign these players - competent Championship players - before they're labelled as 'proven'? Sign a player who's had one good very good season at this level and you will pay 7 figures, and in the case of Anya, Blackman, Vydra, Johnson and Butterfield (for large parts of his career here so far), they've not been able to repeat the form that commanded the fee in the first place. The best value for money is in Leagues One and Two, the SPL and Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, CHCDerby said: The exact same words I say to the missus Spurred on by your example CHC, I said to my missus tonight that Mooy and Tammy Abraham would be fantastic additions for us. She blanked me. You clearly have a missus in a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 50 minutes ago, maydrakin said: It's the unsung players that will be our biggest benefit. The Darryl Powell types rather than the Giorgi Kinkladzes. And we'll be all the better for it. Darryl Powell was a woeful player who kept Baiano out of Jim Smith's team. The only decent thing he managed over a ridiculously long career was to get the gumps down into the third division. Kinkladze was a wizard, not used properly. But I do agree with the sentiment if not the specific example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Darryl Powell was a woeful player who kept Baiano out of Jim Smith's team. The only decent thing he managed over a ridiculously long career was to get the gumps down into the third division. Kinkladze was a wizard, not used properly. But I do agree with the sentiment if not the specific example. Darryl had a fantastic post-humous song as well.... i can't remember it all but it ended with "...he helped to rele-gate the sh!te", "Darryl Powell's a football genius" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Darryl Powell was a woeful player who kept Baiano out of Jim Smith's team. The only decent thing he managed over a ridiculously long career was to get the gumps down into the third division. Kinkladze was a wizard, not used properly. But I do agree with the sentiment if not the specific example. I rated Darryl Powell for the things he could do well - break up the play and release the ball to the nearest team mate, whilst adding heart and energy into the midfield. His problem was that when his team mates went hiding (Mr C. Burley, for example), he tried to step up to the plate and do their job, which he was definitely inadequate to deliver. You need a player who does the ugly stuff, and Baiano and Kinkladze had many talents, but it wasn't tracking runners and putting in tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I think GR's approach to the transfer market will be more akin to that taken by Nigel Clough. That is trying to scout or discover players with skills and personal qualities he can adapt to his style of playing.This will not be price or reputation influenced He is a very shrewed and pragmatic manager who knows everything is measured by results and points in the league table. He knows how to win (as shown at Burton & Birmingham) with not necessarily the best or most expensive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Rams Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Doubt very much if GR is the type to go for big money 'marque' signings, I reckon he's more in the 'bargain basement' market similar to NC but with a slight upgrade.And if that proves the case I for one will be very pleased.Remember only a few months ago Rams fans on various forms were screaming for us to sign players that would guarantee us promotion... Such as Jordan Rhodes and Ross McCormack...well we know that didn't exactly end well for the clubs that did eventually employ them..they did virtually zilch for those clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Like I said a few weeks ago. Mel is looking for a. Clough mark2. Someone more personable tho. Wagner has proved that there is value in the bundasliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 If he gets Dominic Iorfa for 4m I will be impressed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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