EssendonRam Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 23 hours ago, WoollyJumper said: Reminds me of the old joke about who was the first person killed at Rourkes Drift? 21 hours ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Do we still sing Yam Yam when our manager is a Yam Yam? I am familiar with neither of these terms; if I google them, will I have Federal Police banging my door down? Or a search history I'd prefer not to have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssendonRam Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 15 hours ago, TroyDyer said: I liked that about Clement too. With Mac you always thought he was either wearing rose tinted glasses, or watching a completely different game. Or that he preferred to focus on encouraging his players in public, leaving criticism/improvement in-house? I can honestly say there were times when I, as a fan, wished Mac had been more critical of certain players publicly immediately after match but we should all recognise two aspects of that: 1.,That sort of 70s-style of people management at best works only very short term and is more likely to be counter-productive nowadays; and 2. Mac would detail the areas for improvement if you listened to his words but he generally shies away from direct individual criticism (as do Rowett and Clement). While they all have different communication styles and emphases, I genuinely whether many Derby fans actually ever bothered to listen to what Mac was saying. I am certain it is a result of emotional involvement - whether because we want the team to hurt as much as we do or whether it is because they still had a grudge against Mac - but it seems to me that we do not listen to the same interviews. PS: Mac did criticise the squad as directly as anyone ever would after what proved to be his final game. And rightly so. Many will no doubt argue that he was only trying to save his job but, quite honestly (and I wrote this after the game in here and on facebook), my sense was that he had tried all he could to help the players improve (remembering there was no alternative mid-season but to 'make do' until the end of the season) and felt the players couldn't be 'protected' any longer from acknowledging the need to overhaul the squad. I also thought that he sounded like a man who had read the tea leaves and didn't believe he was going to be given the opportunity to show he had the right long term plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoollyJumper Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, EssendonRam said: I am familiar with neither of these terms; if I google them, will I have Federal Police banging my door down? Or a search history I'd prefer not to have? Well after the soldiers were told to fire at will, it should give you a bit of a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingfieldram Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 We are arriving in Brum just before 12 for a few beers before the match. Only had a quick look at the pubs inbetween new street and st andrews......the anchor and the white swan look good for real ale. Does anyone have any pub recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ellafella Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 08:41, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: I think it was brilliant that Gary in his post match interviews had already identified that the players didn't get what he was asking of them first half and ended up leaving gaps for Fulham to exploit. Very refreshing that despite a 4-2 win against a talented side he is straight away identifying areas where we must do better. PS Just to add that already I can see that if the players continue to buy into his playing philosophy we will see the talent that we have emerge. Exciting times I think. Nail & Head. I noticed that...we'd just beaten a very talented Fulham side 4-2 and GR post-match is disappointed that we conceded a second. That gives you a great insight into GR's psychology and perhaps an idea why he is a winner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 4/6/2017 at 00:56, EssendonRam said: Or that he preferred to focus on encouraging his players in public, leaving criticism/improvement in-house? I can honestly say there were times when I, as a fan, wished Mac had been more critical of certain players publicly immediately after match but we should all recognise two aspects of that: 1.,That sort of 70s-style of people management at best works only very short term and is more likely to be counter-productive nowadays; and 2. Mac would detail the areas for improvement if you listened to his words but he generally shies away from direct individual criticism (as do Rowett and Clement). While they all have different communication styles and emphases, I genuinely whether many Derby fans actually ever bothered to listen to what Mac was saying. I am certain it is a result of emotional involvement - whether because we want the team to hurt as much as we do or whether it is because they still had a grudge against Mac - but it seems to me that we do not listen to the same interviews. PS: Mac did criticise the squad as directly as anyone ever would after what proved to be his final game. And rightly so. Many will no doubt argue that he was only trying to save his job but, quite honestly (and I wrote this after the game in here and on facebook), my sense was that he had tried all he could to help the players improve (remembering there was no alternative mid-season but to 'make do' until the end of the season) and felt the players couldn't be 'protected' any longer from acknowledging the need to overhaul the squad. I also thought that he sounded like a man who had read the tea leaves and didn't believe he was going to be given the opportunity to show he had the right long term plan. Very astute. I share your views, Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 16 hours ago, wingfieldram said: We are arriving in Brum just before 12 for a few beers before the match. Only had a quick look at the pubs inbetween new street and st andrews......the anchor and the white swan look good for real ale. Does anyone have any pub recommendations? Shakespeare seems to be the place to go! West Brom away a lot of Rams (and Geordies) took it over. Same again surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, Simsy said: Shakespeare seems to be the place to go! West Brom away a lot of Rams (and Geordies) took it over. Same again surely? First place were heading , getting there for about 11.00 10.10 train . Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I reckon an early goal for us could kill this one. The Blues fans are already in a mood and that will just tip them over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Slipped a couple of quid on us to win 5-0 at 150/1 - well it's only half a pint nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Lowe played the full U23 game tonight so he won't be in the squad tomorrow. Bennett wasn't in the U23 squad so will be in contention for a place on the bench. Bent and Nugent are both nursing knocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 He was hoping nurgent will be as he had a dead leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 06/04/2017 at 22:32, wingfieldram said: We are arriving in Brum just before 12 for a few beers before the match. Only had a quick look at the pubs inbetween new street and st andrews......the anchor and the white swan look good for real ale. Does anyone have any pub recommendations? Highly recommend 'the wellington'! went there before (and after!) the West Brom game, its about a 5 minute walk from new street station and was amazing for real ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Were best pub for a sing song before the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingfieldram Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Ramslad1992 said: Highly recommend 'the wellington'! went there before (and after!) the West Brom game, its about a 5 minute walk from new street station and was amazing for real ale. Just had a quick look.....Its on the list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 06/04/2017 at 22:32, wingfieldram said: We are arriving in Brum just before 12 for a few beers before the match. Only had a quick look at the pubs inbetween new street and st andrews......the anchor and the white swan look good for real ale. Does anyone have any pub recommendations? I'm thinking of trying the Anchor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryDaly Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm thinking This is a bit of a test for me re GR..... Let's see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feris bueller day off Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Ramslad1992 said: Highly recommend 'the wellington'! went there before (and after!) the West Brom game, its about a 5 minute walk from new street station and was amazing for real ale. I work in Brum - for city centre pubs I'd say the Welly, the Old Joint Stock on St Phiilps Square or the Old Contemptibles on Edmund St Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripperg-ram Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Can anyone tell me whats going on with Desart? Is he still with us or has he gone back to borough? Haven't seen much of him in the last few weeks. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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