rammieib Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 11 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Chris Martin- 5 good season, 8 crap ones, law of averages... True, but at least Martins good seasons have pretty much been the last five... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 19 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Chris Martin- 5 good season, 8 crap ones, law of averages... Interesting this one. CM is 28 years old so if he's had 5 good seasons and 8 crap seasons that would mean he made his debut at 15 years old. I didn't know that. Was that debut season deemed a good one or a crap one? Either way making your debut at 15 is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steve How Hard!!! said: Interesting this one. CM is 28 years old so if he's had 5 good seasons and 8 crap seasons that would mean he made his debut at 15 years old. I didn't know that. Was that debut season deemed a good one or a crap one? Either way making your debut at 15 is impressive. May have got slightly confused in those numbers due to his loan spells, but he did makes his debut at 16 by the looks of it. Wasn't meant to be a serious post, just highlighting that that isn't a good way to measure a players success/ failure imo, it's much more situational. Martin would appear to have just had a few good seasons, but we know it's more than that, he's made better than he was in the past due to the style of play fitting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: May have got slightly confused in those numbers due to his loan spells, but he did makes his debut at 16 by the looks of it. Wasn't meant to be a serious post, just highlighting that that isn't a good way to measure a players success/ failure imo, it's much more situational. Martin would appear to have just had a few good seasons, but we know it's more than that, he's made better than he was in the past due to the style of play fitting him Fair point when you explain it like that. Classic example is that Martin struggled when the Mental One (Pearson) didn't utilise him properly. Personally I'd like to see both Martin and Vydra in the same team. It might not work but we'll never know until we try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Steve How Hard!!! said: Fair point when you explain it like that. Classic example is that Martin struggled when the Mental One (Pearson) didn't utilise him properly. Personally I'd like to see both Martin and Vydra in the same team. It might not work but we'll never know until we try it. Agree 100%, Pearson was an idiot in how he used pretty much each and every one of our players, Martin being no exception. I think that Martin could be vydras Troy deeney, and having both of those on the pitch as goalscoring threats would increase the variety of our play no end. I fear bringing Martin back to play on his own again may make us too predictable, but In a new system with vydra, I think it could work well. Like you say, it's worth a try, it might just make the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammed79 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 20 hours ago, rammieib said: 6 or 7 crap seasons and 2 good seasons. Law of averages .... he's crap! Watford played him he scored with the exception of reading he wasnt actually getting a chance elsewhere. Check out the number of appearances he had for previous teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ram79 said: ...with the exception of reading he wasnt actually getting a chance elsewhere. Check out the number of appearances he had for previous teams. Any particular reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammed79 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Any particular reason? Well I assume because he was like a youth player so inexperienced he still only 24 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Doesn't look good, who know's what's happening behind the scenes but clearly Mac isn't impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook1988 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Pathetic of Mac leaving out 8 mil+ vydra for Bennett wot a shambles derby are like villa both shambles. Ah ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Pathetic of Mac leaving out 8 mil+ vydra for Bennett wot a shambles derby are like villa both shambles. Ah ho What's the cost of a player got to do with it? he just hasn't shown anything to justify him being involved. I'm glad the man picking the team isn't swayed by the cost of a player as opposed to whether they contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Pathetic of Mac leaving out 8 mil+ vydra for Bennett wot a shambles derby are like villa both shambles. Ah ho Players shouldn't be picked based on how much they cost, they should be picked based on how much they contribute to the team. If McClaren feels Bennett offers more than Vydra, then that's a damning indictment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, TheRamsAreGoingUp said: Pathetic of Mac leaving out 8 mil+ vydra for Bennett wot a shambles derby are like villa both shambles. Ah ho Derby are a shambles for leaving out a big signing and Villa are a shambles for playing big signings! Some people really do like it both ways eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: Players shouldn't be picked based on how much they cost, they should be picked based on how much they contribute to the team. If McClaren feels Bennett offers more than Vydra, then that's a damning indictment. Very true, Hughes wouldn't get picked using that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 52 minutes ago, Rich84 said: What's the cost of a player got to do with it? he just hasn't shown anything to justify him being involved. I'm glad the man picking the team isn't swayed by the cost of a player as opposed to whether they contribute. You've not seen anything because he's not been given the chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Get him in the pitch!!! 8m let's see why. Poor team selection again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just now, Simsy said: Get him in the pitch!!! 8m let's see why. Poor team selection again No he's *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, Topram said: You've not seen anything because he's not been given the chance Yes he has. Plenty of game time this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Tombo said: Yes he has. Plenty of game time this year. Not a proper run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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