AndyinLiverpool Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 We looked very comfortable keeping possession in areas where it's easy to do so - deep in our half, centre halves to keeper and back etc. We did that a lot - I think that's what boosts our possession stats. As soon as there was some pressure from the opposition, a poor touch or a misplaced pass was usually the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 13 hours ago, Rampage said: Today is the first day that I entertained the notion (not for long) that we could finish third or second. The advantage that we have is that there simply so many teams that can on their day not lose to top six teams. The team that does not let many goals in, tends to get promoted. We need to do better than scraping a 1-0 against Wigan. But our defence is pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: We need to do better than scraping a 1-0 against Wigan. But our defence is pretty solid. Yes we need goalscorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 To be fair Russell took a kick from wigan and so did will huges he looked like he was struggling but i felt we needed someone like carma to come on and use those magic feet of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 If I hadn't seen the score, I would have assumed we lost considering the comments on the performance (and harbingers of doom for future matches...). It is no longer good enough to win, you have to win with a swagger and four or five goals into the bargain. To be fair, I want good performances too (obviously) and clearly if yesterday wasn't good then its fair enough to say that. What 'does me head in' is the logic that that performance is a bellwether for all future performances. As a fan base, I think we are too reactionary. Doesn't help that RD are completey hopeless (and these provide the majority of insights for away games) . At the match at home so only tend to hear the after match roundup. Against Rotherham, who were rubbish, Ed Dawes stated that it was disappointing to only win three nil agaisnt a team like that. Disappointing to have won three nil.... this kind of thing tends to colour the general view, I think. Unhelpfully too. Oh well. I'll gdt back to my happy clapping and looking at the world through my rose coloured specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Sometimes playing badly but winning the game is a sign of a good side on the up. Don't worry folks we'll be up for it against the idiots next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Can we not just enjoy this moment? After the turgid start we should be delighted to win. My understanding was Wigan had a pretty solid defence at home. We have no right to go to any team and expect to thrash them. If we are already getting blase about winning 1-0 away then I worry what will happen when we lose! As for people writing off Vydra, surely the form of Johnson and Bent should show you that under a top quality coach vast improvement is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 39 minutes ago, LazloW said: If I hadn't seen the score, I would have assumed we lost considering the comments on the performance (and harbingers of doom for future matches...). It is no longer good enough to win, you have to win with a swagger and four or five goals into the bargain. To be fair, I want good performances too (obviously) and clearly if yesterday wasn't good then its fair enough to say that. What 'does me head in' is the logic that that performance is a bellwether for all future performances. As a fan base, I think we are too reactionary. Doesn't help that RD are completey hopeless (and these provide the majority of insights for away games) . At the match at home so only tend to hear the after match roundup. Against Rotherham, who were rubbish, Ed Dawes stated that it was disappointing to only win three nil agaisnt a team like that. Disappointing to have won three nil.... this kind of thing tends to colour the general view, I think. Unhelpfully too. Oh well. I'll gdt back to my happy clapping and looking at the world through my rose coloured specs. If you only want to know the result rather than peoples opinion on the performance just use the BBC website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, BondJovi said: Can we not just enjoy this moment? After the turgid start we should be delighted to win. My understanding was Wigan had a pretty solid defence at home. We have no right to go to any team and expect to thrash them. If we are already getting blase about winning 1-0 away then I worry what will happen when we lose! As for people writing off Vydra, surely the form of Johnson and Bent should show you that under a top quality coach vast improvement is possible. There were 2500 there yesterday who enjoyed the result and showed the players their appreciation for the hard work they put in, does not mean they have to think they played well does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 hours ago, rammieib said: Think a few people summed the match up well. We were awful, Pearce and Keogh were monsters defensively, after that everyone else quite poor. Hughes and Russell really poor. Were you in row G, seat 132? That person was the most negative, whingeing individual it has been my displeasure to sit in close proximity of for a while. If it wasn't the disparaging comments aimed at pretty well every Derby player, it was the rather comical and somewhat pathetic 'amateur coaching instructions' that was being relayed to all and sundry for the entire game - instructions which seemed to be those of an experienced parent at an under-12s game. "Close him down - ffs get close, Olsson" - then when Olsson didn't dive in but dropped off slightly to cover the obvious two-on-one which would have led to him being completely by-passed, buying time which allowed Pearce to come across and cover, he shouted something about Pearce having "...got him out of jail again".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: There were 2500 there yesterday who enjoyed the result and showed the players their appreciation for the hard work they put in, does not mean they have to think they played well does it? Taking this further, I've never understood this mentality of some posters who make it out like anyone who is even close to being critical on a message board is a poor supporter. No one knows what anyone is like at the matches. Some happy-clappy posters might be hurling abuse at Richard Keogh for 90 minutes every Saturday for all we know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: There were 2500 there yesterday who enjoyed the result and showed the players their appreciation for the hard work they put in, does not mean they have to think they played well does it? Not saying we played well, nor am I saying you can't say that we didn't play well but I pick up a more negative atmosphere from this thread than it needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes we need goalscorers. We seem to have a perpetual need for scapegoats, and it seems strange that after 5 wins on the trot, we are now resorting to singling out players on the grounds that we should be "...beating the likes of Wigan by more than a single goal". Pretty pathetic really - the level of entitlement has gone through the roof over the last 8 games. There will be some booing at the end of 1-0 victories next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 minute ago, eddie said: We seem to have a perpetual need for scapegoats, and it seems strange that after 5 wins on the trot, we are now resorting to singling out players on the grounds that we should be "...beating the likes of Wigan by more than a single goal". Pretty pathetic really - the level of entitlement has gone through the roof over the last 8 games. There will be some booing at the end of 1-0 victories next. Did you call R5 last night and speak to Herr Savage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Duracell said: Taking this further, I've never understood this mentality of some posters who make it out like anyone who is even close to being critical on a message board is a poor supporter. No one knows what anyone is like at the matches. Some happy-clappy posters might be hurling abuse at Richard Keogh for 90 minutes every Saturday for all we know... This, I may appear to be quite negative or over critical on here but at matches I give the players my full support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, eddie said: We seem to have a perpetual need for scapegoats, and it seems strange that after 5 wins on the trot, we are now resorting to singling out players on the grounds that we should be "...beating the likes of Wigan by more than a single goal". Pretty pathetic really - the level of entitlement has gone through the roof over the last 8 games. There will be some booing at the end of 1-0 victories next. Nonsense. You can't have scapegoats if you're winning. Most of the comments on here have been constructive. Are you proposing that we should never criticise a player ever again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, WhiteHorseRam said: Did you call R5 last night and speak to Herr Savage? Unlikely. I was coming back from Wigan and wouldn't dream of using a mobile phone while driving, what with me not being a lorry (or white van) driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'm a very happy clapper and did indeed applaud every good thing that we did yesterday, including a few nearly moments that didn’t quite come off. I must admit though that I did a fair amount of shouting too at times and maybe some of that was aimed at Olsson as he was disappointing to watch at times. Generally though, when I get really worried I just sing louder and hope the support carries the team over the line. We wouldn't be honest if we said it was easy on the eye yesterday - it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, McLovin said: Nonsense. You can't have scapegoats if you're winning. Most of the comments on here have been constructive. Are you proposing that we should never criticise a player ever again? Not at all. I'm suggesting that you keep a sense perspective instead of just being an argumentative pillock. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but you never know what you can achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 minute ago, eddie said: Unlikely. I was coming back from Wigan and wouldn't dream of using a mobile phone while driving, what with me not being a lorry (or white van) driver. Sorry - just thought I'd ask. ..... and eddie is such rare name ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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