irobinson Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 price might have gone up - Butland appears to have had a set back and be out for the season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, irobinson said: price might have gone up - Butland appears to have had a set back and be out for the season!! Out for 2 or 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Has he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, ossieram said: Has he signed yet? Edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On 22 December 2016 at 10:58, mrdave85 said: The reason I think no-one is clamouring to keep him is because of how solid our back 5 has been. Grant may be in the form of his life at Stoke but that doesn't mean it would definitely be the case here, then would dropping Carson affect his morale etc etc. I think this is a good move for all parties, just depends on the negotiations. I'd be happy with £1m for Granty, but I trust in our Sam to get the best deal for the club. We are looking for £4.5 million for grant apparently. A late Christmas present in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Stoke have to offer over market. We are going to end up getting 2-2.5 now you watch. Stoke City just have little choice really given his performance and Butlands extended absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Do we have a recall clause in the loan? If Carson picks up an injury is Mitchell certain be to ready to step up? With our luck we could easily see this apparently innocuous deal derailing us in the near future. We've been undermined by injuries and / or lack of cover leading to late-season meltdowns before now and I'd sooner we avoid another bad trip if we can? For me he stays on our books. There will be other ways to reward the good service he's given once we've secured a play-off spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, 86 points said: Do we have a recall clause in the loan? If Carson picks up an injury is Mitchell certain be to ready to step up? With our luck we could easily see this apparently innocuous deal derailing us in the near future. We've been undermined by injuries and / or lack of cover leading to late-season meltdowns before now and I'd sooner we avoid another bad trip if we can? For me he stays on our books. There will be other ways to reward the good service he's given once we've secured a play-off spot. Mitchell is second choice for us and we got Weale as third choice just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Mitchell is second choice for us and we got Weale as third choice just in case. I know that @Derby_EnglandLoyal just wondering whether he's ready should Carson pick up and injury? Not seen enough of him to offer an educated guess. Have you seen much of him? As for Weale..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, 86 points said: Do we have a recall clause in the loan? If Carson picks up an injury is Mitchell certain be to ready to step up? With our luck we could easily see this apparently innocuous deal derailing us in the near future. We've been undermined by injuries and / or lack of cover leading to late-season meltdowns before now and I'd sooner we avoid another bad trip if we can? For me he stays on our books. There will be other ways to reward the good service he's given once we've secured a play-off spot. His loan runs out early January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, 86 points said: I know that @Derby_EnglandLoyal just wondering whether he's ready should Carson pick up and injury? Not seen enough of him to offer an educated guess. Have you seen much of him? As for Weale..... Only seen 2 game and can't really judge him against Liverpool and Hartlepool tbf. Yeah I know what you mean about Weale, awful keeper and still remembered his own goal against us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 16 minutes ago, reveldevil said: His loan runs out early January. Understood @reveldevil - really just wondering whether folk see Mitchell as adequate cover? If not should we be selling Grant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, 86 points said: Understood @reveldevil - really just wondering whether folk see Mitchell as adequate cover? In an ideal world, I'd keep Grant who's as good a backup you'd wish for at this level. Not really seen enough of Mitchell to say the same, but is a big responsibility if he does have to step in, especially as Carson was out last season with a back injury, and it's not unheard of to have a re-accurance of those type of injuries. I'd hope holding out for a decent fee means we've identified a replacement, and need the money to bring them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, reveldevil said: In an ideal world, I'd keep Grant who's as good a backup you'd wish for at this level. Not really seen enough of Mitchell to say the same, but is a big responsibility if he does have to step in, especially as Carson was out last season with a back injury, and it's not unheard of to have a re-accurance of those type of injuries. I'd hope holding out for a decent fee means we've identified a replacement, and need the money to bring them in. Good shout - fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 5 hours ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Only seen 2 game and can't really judge him against Liverpool and Hartlepool tbf. Yeah I know what you mean about Weale, awful keeper and still remembered his own goal against us ? Add in the disastrous game he just had for the U23s. And disastrous would be understating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Saw a story yesterday that Butland is out for another 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I thought the same, never nice for a player to get injured, but Stoke will now know we have them over a barrell. Just out luck though, either Grant will get injured before a deal is struck, or Grant will have a game reminiscent to Wolves when he almost caught the ball but decided to place it into his net. 4 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Saw a story yesterday that Butland is out for another 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 15 hours ago, reveldevil said: In an ideal world, I'd keep Grant who's as good a backup you'd wish for at this level. Not really seen enough of Mitchell to say the same, but is a big responsibility if he does have to step in, especially as Carson was out last season with a back injury, and it's not unheard of to have a re-accurance of those type of injuries. I'd hope holding out for a decent fee means we've identified a replacement, and need the money to bring them in. Don't think we would need another keeper, have backup. Straight swap for Crouch would be just dandy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 16 hours ago, 86 points said: Do we have a recall clause in the loan? If Carson picks up an injury is Mitchell certain be to ready to step up? With our luck we could easily see this apparently innocuous deal derailing us in the near future. We've been undermined by injuries and / or lack of cover leading to late-season meltdowns before now and I'd sooner we avoid another bad trip if we can? For me he stays on our books. There will be other ways to reward the good service he's given once we've secured a play-off spot. Letting Coutts go in 14/15 springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, cannable said: Letting Coutts go in 14/15 springs to mind. Didn't NC nick him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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