Idiakez Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Best striker I've seen at Derby in the past 10 years by an absolute mile. Those who berate him every week and want him gone just need to think back to our collapse under McClaren whilst he was injured, it wasn't a coincidence those events coincided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, Idiakez said: Best striker I've seen at Derby in the past 10 years by an absolute mile. Those who berate him every week and want him gone just need to think back to our collapse under McClaren whilst he was injured, it wasn't a coincidence those events coincided. It wasn't a coincidence that there was a coincidence thats Steve Mac for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 You could make a video of every player carefully selecting the best bits and make every player look good,and then wonder why we didn't finish top. Why not make a video of all his misses,and all the times he stood on his heels and didn't make any runs into the danger area,there were loads of them. I would like to see a good striker here who does what he's paid to do...score goals.Never mind flicks-on,how about taking responsibility on yourself and go for goal. In my opinion he has been a let-down this season,not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeggyRam Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, top 6 finish said: You could make a video of every player carefully selecting the best bits and make every player look good,and then wonder why we didn't finish top. Why not make a video of all his misses,and all the times he stood on his heels and didn't make any runs into the danger area,there were loads of them. I would like to see a good striker here who does what he's paid to do...score goals.Never mind flicks-on,how about taking responsibility on yourself and go for goal. In my opinion he has been a let-down this season,not good enough. yeah 15 goals and 10 assists, poor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, SkeggyRam said: yeah 15 goals and 10 assists, poor! how did Gray do at burnley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Always loved Martins ability, I sometimes watch him all game to try and learn from him. A brilliant striker. I just wish he could enjoy his football though, I've not seen him ever enjoy a game... even against Wolves this season where Ian Holloway said "if youre a kid and you want to be a complete striker, watch Martin in this game" he didnt even seem happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 20 minutes ago, top 6 finish said: In my opinion he has been a let-down this season,not good enough. What do you want from him then? 100 goals this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 15 Goals and 10 Assists seems like a decent return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 25 minutes ago, top 6 finish said: You could make a video of every player carefully selecting the best bits and make every player look good,and then wonder why we didn't finish top. Why not make a video of all his misses,and all the times he stood on his heels and didn't make any runs into the danger area,there were loads of them. I would like to see a good striker here who does what he's paid to do...score goals.Never mind flicks-on,how about taking responsibility on yourself and go for goal. In my opinion he has been a let-down this season,not good enough. Oh, like Ince then. Cos 40% of the time that worked, every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I know some people want to see him in a 4-4-2 with a pacey striker next yo him, but I'd rather see Hughesy/Bryson playing really close to him in a 4-2-3-1 with pacey wingers around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeggyRam Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, Simsy said: how did Gray do at burnley? he was 1 of 2 players involved in more goals then Martin, cost 9 mill more mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, SkeggyRam said: he was 1 of 2 players involved in more goals then Martin, cost 9 mill more mind or 171million less. They are promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Simsy said: or 171million less. They are promoted. Oo, that's very clever. Good argument. Can't really come back against that one to be honest. It's all fine margins really int it? If Martin had brought his A game to a couple more games, a couple of draws might have been wins, a couple of losses might have been draws. So based on promotion being worth £200m, would it be worth going out and spending £199m on all but guaranteed promotion? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 25 minutes ago, Simsy said: how did Gray do at burnley? He scored 25,funnily enough Vokes scored 15. Martin was joint 8th in the table of top scorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If you need evidence of his game the video shows it. He is at his best when he's got players close to him. Early in the season he didn't have that and it was clear he gets frustrated. Top top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 1 minute ago, ollycutts1982 said: If you need evidence of his game the video shows it. He is at his best when he's got players close to him. Early in the season he didn't have that and it was clear he gets frustrated. Top top player. Hi Arry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I've never questioned his ability as an individual. I have however questioned our past and seemingly continued decision to base our entire system around the health and form of one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcfan1 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Anyone who wants him sold has lost it I get it, we shouldnt base our play around him and he is not undroppable, but to sell him? As in get rid? Im baffled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 57 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: I know some people want to see him in a 4-4-2 with a pacey striker next yo him, but I'd rather see Hughesy/Bryson playing really close to him in a 4-2-3-1 with pacey wingers around them. I like the 4-2-3-1 formation, the only problem is our players don't necessarily suit it. We have Thorne who can play the two, but who else? Hendrick potentially? Johnson may be able to but hasn't impressed this season. Butters and Bryson would both be in the Hughes type of midfielder so if we did go with this formation, we may as well let one go to allow room for another more defensive minded midfielder to play alongside/cover Thorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If the players around him were laying on as many cute passes and layoffs for him as he does for them he'd have got 25 this season and we'd be playing in the premiership next year. Hopefully next season we'll have George and Will playing 30 games together not half a dozen in which case, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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