Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I know there is always a case of wanting to change things round but with the players at our disposal we must put round pegs in round holes. i would go ince, thorne, butters, jeff with martin and blackman up top. We then have johnson, bryso and camara who can replace like for like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 The short answer is no. The long answer is noooooo no no no no no no nope nope nope no noooooooooooooooooo no no no no no never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Can't even be bothered to find the Mike Bassett picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 4 2 3 1 would probably suit us better ! Like the home game v bristol city . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I've been thinking this for a while as well. Carson; Christie, Keogh, Shackell, Warnock; Hendrick, Butterfield, Johnson, Camara; Martin, Blackman. Unfortunately the time to change things was a few games ago. Now we've started to see signs of recovery so need to stick with 4-3-3 rather than confusing the players more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Srg said: Can't even be bothered to find the Mike Bassett picture. With the midfield listed I think this man is more appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: I've been thinking this for a while as well. Carson; Christie, Keogh, Shackell, Warnock; Hendrick, Butterfield, Johnson, Camara; Martin, Blackman. Unfortunately the time to change things was a few games ago. Now we've started to see signs of recovery so need to stick with 4-3-3 rather than confusing the players more. No Thorne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 We need to try something new IMO. Whether we have the players to make 442 work though, I'm not so sure. If we spent wisely and had someone like McCormack up top with Martin it could've worked. Leicester and Watford aren't doing too bad with it are they. The best we have played lately was against Bristol with Ince in behind, fans seem afraid of change though even though the 433 isn't working for us they still don't want change, strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I think we do Posted this in another thread, ince up top with martin to bridge the gap playing the number 10 role just behind then running on to flicks. Blackman (although not seen it) & wiemann are like for like subs for ince if he is off his game Against the lesser teams & at home we have wingers in russell & camara etc that can get forward. Then a choice of butters hendrick or thorne as the middle two. Against the better sides that might have decent wingers & are an attacking threat johnson or olsen can fill in at the LM & RM positions respectively to help our wing backs and keep possession with warnock & christie bombing on We have a decent side we have just hit a sticky patch and i think we are not playing players in the positions to maximise their potential at times. Against the likes of Preston st home do we really need to be playing thorn as a DM when he would be better 10-20 yards further up the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeytennis12345 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Well 433 isn't working anymore .. Lets go back to the good old days of 235 ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Carson christie Keogh Shackell ollson Hanson Thorne Butterfield ince Blackman Johnson Two defensive midfielders who know how to pick out a pass, Johnson further forward on the left (was lethal for Norwich in the role) and Blackman in his natural position down the middle w/ Butterfield close behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 If Chris Martin is playing then we must have midfielders running into the box whenever the ball goes near him. Study George's wonderful goal. Martin won the header and then played a delightful ball that Thorne didn't have to break stride for.....if no one was running onto that Martin would have had no where to go, maybe lay it off wide at best. Play to Chris's strengths and we'll go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I have a suspicion that Clement would like to play 2 up top somehow but he's not sure how to make it work with our squad. For example, Thorne as CDM is great, but could he be a 4-4-2 center mid? Or martin 2 up, ever? Doing a 4 man midfield I'd go something like: Ince Butterfield Thorne Johnson Blackman Martin There's Bryson and Hendrick to come in middle and Razza, Russell on the flanks. Weimann too. Hendrick can play right if needed, Johnson can play central if needed, Russell, Weimann and Bent if he's still alive can go up front. I know Russell played central last season, but that was as a replacement for Martin and not as one of a front 2. Or...the dreaded Diamond now he has Olsson and Christie who like a venture forwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Same team that started last 2 again against Preston . Same system 4-3-3 please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: I know there is always a case of wanting to change things round but with the players at our disposal we must put round pegs in round holes. i would go ince, thorne, butters, jeff with martin and blackman up top. We then have johnson, bryso and camara who can replace like for like. round pegs in round holes and suggesting Hendrick plays on the wing in the same post is quite possibly the most contradictory thing I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Agree but he has done a fine job of the rep of ire and was mom on at least one occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 There should be a time and a place for a 4-4-2 which can be positive but with our current way of playing 4-3-3 (midfielders not pushing on) we are playing and hoping to Nick a goal and see the game out which can work if the other team are poor and don't do their jobs but highly unlikely against the better sides. i thought we had a Huge chance to have a real go at Man U as we used to from midfield but the side picked with the lets sit back attitude stopped that stone dead. It was a case of let's wait until they work a good chance and put it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I have a suspicion that Clement would like to play 2 up top somehow but he's not sure how to make it work with our squad. For example, Thorne as CDM is great, but could he be a 4-4-2 center mid? Or martin 2 up, ever? Doing a 4 man midfield I'd go something like: Ince Butterfield Thorne Johnson Blackman Martin There's Bryson and Hendrick to come in middle and Razza, Russell on the flanks. Weimann too. Hendrick can play right if needed, Johnson can play central if needed, Russell, Weimann and Bent if he's still alive can go up front. I know Russell played central last season, but that was as a replacement for Martin and not as one of a front 2. Or...the dreaded Diamond now he has Olsson and Christie who like a venture forwards? Looked like we could play that against Brum away, even if it was more like 4-3-2 with Baird at CM (don't mind him at RB but not CM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Monkeytennis12345 said: Well 433 isn't working anymore .. Lets go back to the good old days of 235 ....... Were arent playing 433 its 451, Blackman and Ince (or whoever is in those roles) are too deep for it to be 433 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 54 minutes ago, Sparkle said: There should be a time and a place for a 4-4-2 which can be positive but with our current way of playing 4-3-3 (midfielders not pushing on) we are playing and hoping to Nick a goal and see the game out which can work if the other team are poor and don't do their jobs but highly unlikely against the better sides. i thought we had a Huge chance to have a real go at Man U as we used to from midfield but the side picked with the lets sit back attitude stopped that stone dead. It was a case of let's wait until they work a good chance and put it away. Our midfield 3 just got overrun by their 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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