davenportram Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Fullham and Forest Bournemouth broke the rules, no sanction stated yet guess they're waiting for the QPR legal battle to finish (any new on that?) millwall broke the rules too but no punishment because relegation wasn't seen as gaining an advantage http://mobile.football-league.co.uk/news/article/2015/championship-financial-fair-play-2867176.aspx Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Great time to nip in and get McCormack for about £8.5 million. Good value at that, I think. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Yeah, we could take a couple of Fulham players off their hands. Pretty decent team. Some good management away from being up this end of the league Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 ...to think some Bournemouth fans were accusing us of trying to "buy" promotion last season... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Bolton are also under an embargo but it's not because of failing to meet last season's requirements, it's because of their financial struggles this season. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Bolton are umbongoed as they couldn't get accountants to sign off accounts owing to the instability of the club at the moment. They reckon that they would have met the criteria, but sounds like a classic case of 'the dog ate my homework sir' to me. The cynic in me reckons that they wouldn't have passed it, but do not wish to attempt to sell when under punishment. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 The two best excuses from pupils for undone homework were:- 1. My dog ate the said item 2. My grannie ripped up my homework. On both counts I decided to believe the pupils and it had the unexpected bonus of relieving me of the somewhat onerous task of marking the said items. Best Bullshirt was from the brother of a pupil who handed in his brother's project from the previous year with all the ticks that I had made on it not very neatly tippexed over. He continued with his bull for so long that I decided to give him diplomatic immunity. I decided that it was best described as a joint effort. It is, as we speak, being considered for the Booker Prize (Tippex subcategory). The film rights are also being negotiated vigorously with a one figure fee being mooted. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 3 hours ago, davenportram said: Fullham and Forest Bournemouth broke the rules, no sanction stated yet guess they're waiting for the QPR legal battle to finish (any new on that?) millwall broke the rules too but no punishment because relegation wasn't seen as gaining an advantage http://mobile.football-league.co.uk/news/article/2015/championship-financial-fair-play-2867176.aspx Brilliant. Merry Christmas Red Dogs! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 2 hours ago, WystonRam said: ...to think some Bournemouth fans were accusing us of trying to "buy" promotion last season... I think one or two actually believed it as well, its called the "Dyche" syndrome! Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wouldn't normally say this but I do feel for the forest fans. The sell their best player for 7m and still can't get out of it, get the impression the fa hates fawaz as much as the rest of us Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 12 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Wouldn't normally say this but I do feel for the forest fans. The sell their best player for 7m and still can't get out of it, get the impression the fa hates fawaz as much as the rest of us The money they got in only matched what went out on Alongerdongler - net gain of zip. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I bet Bournemouth are REALLY concerned about that..as they are playing and beating Chelsea and Manchester United...! we have got to get promoted this season...got to. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thing is FFP hinders the smaller clubs. All it does it keeps the bigger teams with bigger revenues richer than the rest, I'm glad Bournemouth told em to stick it, broke the rules and got promoted. Had they not broken the rules and stuck to FFP, I doubt they'd ever have the chance to play in the PL. We can all complain on here, but let's be realistic. Derby are a big club in terms of support and revenue compared to a good number in the Championship therefore it's easy for us to point the finger. If we were a Rotherham, how would we expect to have a shot at promotion without spending? By preventing Bournemouth to spend a few quid would basically deny them the chance to finish above us unless of a miracle, That, in my opinion, is unfair. Glad they're doing well. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Thing is FFP hinders the smaller clubs. All it does it keeps the bigger teams with bigger revenues richer than the rest, I'm glad Bournemouth told em to stick it, broke the rules and got promoted. Had they not broken the rules and stuck to FFP, I doubt they'd ever have the chance to play in the PL. We can all complain on here, but let's be realistic. Derby are a big club in terms of support and revenue compared to a good number in the Championship therefore it's easy for us to point the finger. If we were a Rotherham, how would we expect to have a shot at promotion without spending? By preventing Bournemouth to spend a few quid would basically deny them the chance to finish above us unless of a miracle, That, in my opinion, is unfair. Glad they're doing well. By spending prudently within their means and winning games of football. Not buying their way to the top. Derby can spend money that Rotherham can't because we're a bigger club and we bring more money in. How can a poor student like me ever afford a Ferrari if you won't let me spend money I don't have? How unfair that Bill Gates can and I can't. Just because he has bigger revenue streams doesn't mean he can be allowed to spend more than me. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 . Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Just now, reveldevil said: If your owner is prepared to bankroll the club's spending, what's wrong with that? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 5 minutes ago, Tombo said: By spending prudently within their means and winning games of football. Not buying their way to the top. Derby can spend money that Rotherham can't because we're a bigger club and we bring more money in. How can a poor student like me ever afford a Ferrari if you won't let me spend money I don't have? How unfair that Bill Gates can and I can't. Just because he has bigger revenue streams doesn't mean he can be allowed to spend more than me. You can't compare the two. FFP came in when club status had already been set. It would be fair if FFP came when everyone started on a level playing field, but it hasn't. Rotherham can't compete with Derby financially. They're miles off. So how is that fair? They're going to have to do something truly superb to get anywhere near the top. All because they're restricted to their spending. They can't even gamble a little. Whoever they bring in, if they're any good, they'll be sold within 12 months just to 'balance the books'. FFP kills the dream for the smaller clubs. It's unrealistic to expect a Rotherham to compete within their own budget againt big spenders. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. You can only complain about teams buying their way to the top because FFP suits Derby. I bet if the shoe was on other foot you wouldn't have the same train of thought. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 52 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We can all complain on here, but let's be realistic. Derby are a big club in terms of support and revenue compared to a good number in the Championship therefore it's easy for us to point the finger. If we were a Rotherham, how would we expect to have a shot at promotion without spending? Maybe those teams should try growing their fanbase first so the club is sustainable before progressing to the next level? Bournemouth has a population of 190,000 and nearly half a million in the immediate area. For context, Derby has a population of 250,000 and 1,500,000 in the immediate area including Nottingham. It's all very well for clubs to dream, but what about the local businesses, the employees, and the taxes that are left unpaid when these millionaires lose interest and pull out? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Unless QPR get punished the whole FFP thing is a load of old....... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 25 minutes ago, Anon said: Maybe those teams should try growing their fanbase first so the club is sustainable before progressing to the next level? Bournemouth has a population of 190,000 and nearly half a million in the immediate area. For context, Derby has a population of 250,000 and 1,500,000 in the immediate area including Nottingham. It's all very well for clubs to dream, but what about the local businesses, the employees, and the taxes that are left unpaid when these millionaires lose interest and pull out? I'm not sure I entirely agree with what I've written by the way, but I did want to point out that there are some sensible reasons for FFP and isn't only a case of football trying to "keep the little guy down". I also wonder if we'll be in next year's report, considering our considerable spend this summer. Also, if anyone has a link to the thread from January where Bournmouth fans were criticising our loans as extravagant at the very time their own club was bidding 5 million for Demarai Gray I would appreciate it. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21305-which-clubs-got-embargoed-for-christmas/#findComment-934137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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