bigbadbob Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is some places in this country but Sunderland aren't one of them. It is in this country, I've been there. It's just below scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 All that glitters is not gold.It's why I don't feel the fixation on being in the PL. It's boring after a year if you end up fodder like Villa, Sunderland etc. When I read how frustrated and demanding Rams fans are about being in the PL rather than trying to enjoy the last couple of years it kills me. 100% I'd rather be us than Villa. Why the hell would you want to be in the PL for the sake of making up the numbers "It's worth..."Nothing. Nothing to me or you. It actually costs us a hell of a lot more. It's alright if you're top of the pile of *****. Like Saints. You get some good footballers and you win a fair chunk. You might have the squad to get a trophy and you get the best thing... European nights!!! But you can have more fun down here. I bet Sunderland fans look down their noses (like Toon fans) at the Championship. Idiots. I bet Newcastle had more fun winning the Champ than they had recently. "We're Premier League". Nah, you're someone for Man City to get points off. People seem to not enjoy watching their teams win anymore and I Just don't get it. "Mickey Mouse cup anyway." is another one that drives me mad.I like football for football. Celebrating goals, winning games, getting near trophies. People seem more interested in branding and money. Two things that don't benefit them. The only thing the PL has to offer us, as fans of the actual game rather than the soap opera, is a smoother path to European nights at the San Siro and chances of winning trophies. Yes, like the Mickey Mouse cup that everyone laughs at because they'd rather finish 11th. Being Sunderland and Villa etc is booring. Guarantee the fans would enjoy smashing Rotherham 5-0 more than playing for a draw with Chelsea. They'd celebrate getting 90 pts in the Champ with far more genuine enthusiasm than reaching 38pts in the "best league in the world" Oh I hope we stay up so I can pay another £65 to watch Arsenal batter us 8-0. Otherwise we'll be playing the likes of Huddersfield Spot on.For me, football is going to the match with people you love or get on well with and enjoying it win loss or draw. Yeah a win makes it even better but I'd be happy watching Derby play anyone as long as the trains are running and the chippies open.I'd like us to get in the Premier, look at Stoke, probably the club most like us? They've had a blast up there but if they come down this season I'm sure they won't be too upset. Pointless expecting anything with Derby, just enjoy the show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 All that glitters is not gold.Shouldn't that be all that glisters is not gold. Good post all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 you must've experienced some really bad areas if you think Sunderland isn't one. I've spent loads of time up there, and it's grim.Come on now Mostyn, if you visted Derby and woke up and only saw Normanton and Alvaston you would think Derby was pretty grim.If you come off the M180 and saw Freeman Street and up Cleethorpe and Grimsby road and into Cleethoroes you would think Grimsby was the biggest shithole in the country.If you woke up and saw the road out of the town centre and into the new housing development area I live you would think it's a great place.I bet Sunderland has some areas which are just as nice as the best Derby can offer if not better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Come on now Mostyn, if you visted Derby and woke up and only saw Normanton and Alvaston you would think Derby was pretty grim.If you come off the M180 and saw Freeman Street and up Cleethorpe and Grimsby road and into Cleethoroes you would think Grimsby was the biggest shithole in the country.If you woke up and saw the road out of the town centre and into the new housing development area I live you would think it's a great place.I bet Sunderland has some areas which are just as nice as the best Derby can offer if not betterdo you mean: if we came off the m180 and saw freeman street... And then drove round the whole of the rest of Grimsby, we'd still think it was a shithole, just with one nice area (obviously that would be your gaff)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 do you mean: if we came off the m180 and saw freeman street... And then drove round the whole of the rest of Grimsby, we'd still think it was a shithole, just with one nice area (obviously that would be your gaff)?Visit Scartho, Humberston, areas of Cleethorpes, Humberston Road, Holton Le Clay, Tetney you would think it was great.Stay around the town centre you would see boarded up shops, 13 year old parents, more shell suits than a Jimmy Savile wardrobe.Areas around the town centres generally is lower cost housing with the scruff bags that live there, it's also where as a visitor you are most likely going to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Come on now Mostyn, if you visted Derby and woke up and only saw Normanton and Alvaston you would think Derby was pretty grim.If you come off the M180 and saw Freeman Street and up Cleethorpe and Grimsby road and into Cleethoroes you would think Grimsby was the biggest shithole in the country.If you woke up and saw the road out of the town centre and into the new housing development area I live you would think it's a great place.I bet Sunderland has some areas which are just as nice as the best Derby can offer if not betterWoah. Back off now. I'm warning you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You know nothing of bleak if you've not become familiar with the south Wales vallies.some of the towns and villages have literally nothing, but the countryside is lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 You know nothing of bleak if you've not become familiar with the south Wales vallies.some of the towns and villages have literally nothing, but the countryside is lovely. Blame Maggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Blame MaggieShe might have shot Mr Burns but that doesn't mean she did this too. She's just a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Anyone listen to guardian football podcast (you should do).Anyway, they have mentioned a few times that there is apparently a drinking culture at Sunderland. And not just ipro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 In terms of the town or the footballer s particularly? It's an OK podcast but not a patchh on DCFC Podcst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 As a Boro fan, we have viewed the constant upheaval 25 miles up the road with more interest than most. There is a school of thought amongst our fans that as posters on here have noticed, there are clubs in the lower Prem that are chocka with deadwood, players who lack either the inclination or ability or fire to drive the club on. Three examples noted are the skunks and deckchairs from up the road from us and Villa. With Nyacassel they are aided and abbetted in this by having a chairman who doesn't seem too bothered either, so long as they finish 17th the TV money keeps rolling in to him.A lot of our posters are convinced that relegation 6 years ago was a blessing in disguise; granted we could have done with going back up a few seasons ago and for this Strachan has a lot to answer for, but coming down from the Prem acted as a purge to rid ourselves of these passengers and players content to sit on inflated wages for underperforming and start again, bring kids through the academy and be able to blood them, bring players in who were hungry and had the talent and desire to push themselves onto the next level.We looked back at our average starting 11 from our relegation season and despite being a Prem side that year were shocked with the amount of dross it contained. Players like Justin Hoyte and Mohammed Shawky Ffs who were never going to do anything. In fact there were only 3 from that 11 who would get in our side now in the champo; Downing of course, Robert Huth and Tuncay Sanli. Sure you might have the stigma of going down with 12 points, this was unwanted for us as well as prior to this the Mackems up the a19 had both the two lowest ever Prem totals, something we reminded them about whenever possible in answer to their boasts about being the best team in England for a decade or more like Manure and Pool (only in the 1890's!) But it needed your relegation at the very least to get rid of the root cause same as it did for us and stop your club going rotten from the heart out like those three sadacts currently scratting around the floor of the Prem.... sounds like Derby and Boro going up is the natural state of the Universe, renew, replenish.I Really hope so, watch out Prem dead wood next year. Who's next after villa, Blunderland and McLaren's lot? Baggies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I don't mind West Brom particularly. It's Villa Sunderland and Newcastle who "deserve" a relegation for being perpetually rubbish but acting entitled. Although as Eddie Howe's fae popped up on match of the day I did want him relegated. not his team, but him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Newcastle deserve for simply how disgusting their fans are towards managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't feel like wba have been dodging the bullet, they've had one dodgy season, but the rest theyve never really been in any danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 sounds like Derby and Boro going up is the natural state of the Universe, renew, replenish.I Really hope so, watch out Prem dead wood next year. Who's next after villa, Blunderland and McLaren's lot? Baggies?Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 In keeping with this topic, i was just wondering, if the rumour about Chelsea going for Antonio Conte is to be believed, what on earth have Chelsea seen in him that is so special? I reckon most Premier League managers could emulate any achievement he has! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 26 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: In keeping with this topic, i was just wondering, if the rumour about Chelsea going for Antonio Conte is to be believed, what on earth have Chelsea seen in him that is so special? I reckon most Premier League managers could emulate any achievement he has! Totally agree....why are they going for someone with a case of match fixing hanging over his head....that it sounds like he is going to get done for..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: In keeping with this topic, i was just wondering, if the rumour about Chelsea going for Antonio Conte is to be believed, what on earth have Chelsea seen in him that is so special? I reckon most Premier League managers could emulate any achievement he has! It's a nice day for fishing eh most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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