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1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

Never a good sign when your accounts are overdue at Companies House.

i think it should be an instant points deduction if it happens.

there is simply no excuse. they are not only breaking company law but they are almost always hiding something.

we are not playing today but feels like we are. anything but a win for our rivals is a huge victory for us and puts us one step closer to promotion.

to be in this position we really cant throw it away now

everybody talks about this england side like its a golden generation but the defence is terrible and thats the most important bit of international football.

kyle walker is englands only defensive player that is top class.

this england side will not be able to get the most out of its attacking players until we have a defence you can leave 1 v 1 at the back like top class players can be left.

arsenal for example are so good going forward at the minute because their defence doesnt need protection. Same with City and Liverpool. No team outside the top 3 have top class defenders

a lot of suggestions from the lower leagues and youthful players but can anyone really see it?

everything about our recruitment under clowes will suggest its going to be 28-32 year old championship experienced players with the fee going on wages instead of buying the player

20 hours ago, jimtastic56 said:

It’s hard to disagree with you after losing Knight , Bird and Wildsmith . Possibly along with Sibley and Thomson in a few weeks time . Looking at the big picture - have we been so desperate to get out of Lg 1 that we have no long-term strategy?

i think its a big worry, we have been selling younger players consistently to fund older players on short term deals. you have gotta build something, hopefully we get away with it and go up so the gamble has paid off but its a risky game to play because come the summer time we are left in a division that will be more difficult with a squad thatll need a full rebuild, its not like we can go again

1 hour ago, Malagaram said:

Message to Paul Warne "Please will you take Waghorn to see an optamologist to have his eyes tested before allowing him onto the football pitch again,and secondly on Monday morning or when the team are in for training Waghorn needs practice in shooting at goal because he couldnt hit a barn door at 10 yards.Hope he never gets to take a penalty

you can copy & paste this for a lot of players, i pray we move on from old over the hill players in the summer regardless of what division we are in. as i mentionedf yesterday our foundations are built of sand, every year we are going to need a rebuild there is nothing long term about our plan

may be unpopular amongst some but the reality is they try to overcomplicate with jargon and tedious explanations because if it was all simplified people would see through it and know its all built on a house of cards

yes it can generate returns that not many things can so quickly which is its appeal especially for those that dont have time or money for long term investment but there isnt much logic as to why it is a wise investment other than fear of missing out and the main reason its propped up is due to criminal activity and unregulation

1 hour ago, Crewton said:

It feels like justice to me in the cases of Forest and Leicester, because both appear to have broken FFP in the EFL in recent times (Leicester escaped in the past also with merely a small fine after fighting the EFL over it for years and effectively won major honours as a result). Forest also knew that they were spending more last season than they could afford to do under the regulations and yet prevaricated on obtaining balancing funds from Johnson's transfer because they thought deadlines didn't apply to them with the arrogance you expect from the super-rich. Now they're both threatening the football governing bodies with legal action despite having signed up to the competition rules.

Of course, even wealthier clubs deserve to get appropriate justice, but that doesn't mean these two deserve sympathy - they made their beds and they're unlikely to go bust from the effects of a tiny points deduction.

no sympathy about them breakuing the rules i just think the rules are fundamentally wrong.

i think every leagues maximum spend should be aligned to the club with the highest revenue in the league it shouldnt be on individual clubs, all it does it create a world of haves and have nots that goes for every division. we have seen ourselves ffp rules do nothing to prevent clubs getting into financial trouble but nobody is stupid enough now to believe thats why it was brought in its simply to protect the heirachy.

6 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

We are still capable of automatic promotion because the opposition are so poor and not because of our outstanding football 

the league is crap and it's an especially crap division this year compared to previous years

you are completely correct we can be rubbish and still go up, it will be a huge disapointment if we arent in the championship next year

the teams that came down have been terrible but will sort themselves out by next year, the teams coming down this year will be much better & more worryingly the teams coming up from league two will likely be at the top end of the division so whatever we achieve this season next year is going to be much harder

we can laugh because its leicester and forest but it really doesnt feel right does it? in terms of the premier league that is.  almost every club in the prem is at the limit either just under or over it like everton leicester and forest.... apart from the established super league clubs  who will spend the summer picking off players from villa newcastle wolves and the list goes on. speaking of the super league its like its already been introduced

it will be burnley and bournemouth that will be next in trouble, theyve had big spends in the past few seasons. bournemouth alone have spent north of 200m in the past 18 months and have hardly recouped a penny in transfer fees

to me the rules feel completely wrong as funny as it is because all the vile clubs are getting punished

bradley is a really dislikable footballer, reminds me of t. lawrence just seems to have about 3 brain cells and that's being kind

i cant fault the job he has doing at all as we are in the top 2 which will mean we have had a great season

but it does feel like the foundations are made on sand and we are never too far away from a bad run. i cant put my finger on why but it really doesnt seem convincing

massive opportunity blown, we will have to respond immediately.

this will give all those chasing us a big boost, if we had won today it would have felt like a defeat for everyone else

Just now, Jimbo Ram said:

1 win in 4 play off finals at Wembley 🤔 Think I would take a top 2 finish 😊

no better way to break the curse then!

the fat greek will surely get in trouble for that?

i cant ever recall an owner being at the edge of the pitch on full time before, i know he does it a lot in greece, he kicked a ball on the pitch earlier this season! has it ever happened before in england though?

1 hour ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

We need automatic, nothing less. As much as I Love London, our latest trips to Wembley have not been a bundle of fun, the  play offs are too much of a lottery for my liking

i dont think it matters how we go up as long as we do.

if you were guarenteed promotion there is no better place to do it than wembley even with all the stress it brings

2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

You know what pragmatism is the keyword here, the objective is to get out of League 1 and if we achieve that then then means will justify the ends 

this is the bottom line we need to get out this division and it doesnt matter how we do it

but the issue becomes if we dont get out of the division we are in big trouble because yet again we will need another rebuild but thats warnes way. if it doesnt work and we dont go up that its been a terrible decision to hire and keep him but if we go up then its paid off . whether he can take us to where we want to be as a championship club thats a different discussion because based on what i have seen and history i am not sure he will take us much further than mid table of the championship at the most but lets hope we have that problem

3 hours ago, Srg said:

Have your opinion, fine, but if that will never ever change regardless of anything, why are you even here discussing it?

exactly why would you nail yourself so rigidly to an opinion and not let anything that actually happens change it?

that is just petty and makes the points you make kind of irrelevant because you arent judging them objectively

i am not warnes biggest fan at all but hands up today was very good and if it continues i will be more than happy

and in regards to the style I don’t think it’s about kick and rush or tiki taka that make a style good or bad

its about intensity, slowly passing it around whilst having control of the game is the most boring football imaginable but playing hoof ball is terrible too.

Liverpool and Man City completely different in styles, one is more kick and rush and one is control the game but both play at a high intensity which makes it brilliant to watch. 
 

Everton and Luton both play hoof ball but Everton play it with no intensity which makes for absolute snoozfests and Luton play at a million miles an hour which results in great watches

just a few examples but the bottom line is low intensity makes for bad boring football and high intensity makes for entertainment, I have never had issue with direct football if it results in entertainment

18 hours ago, DCFC_Sloth said:

I really liked the theory that was laid out in the final couple of years of Mel’s tenure (frightening sentence, I know). The idea that over half the first team would be made up of academy players, with high quality loans to cover shorter term gaps and good signings brought in to cover areas where there were no players coming through. I thought this was quite a good model in the modern day. It would attract youngsters with high ceilings to the club as their was a clear path to the first team, build confidence with other clubs to lend us their best talent, and allow us to spend decent money on players as academy players would be pure profit. It seemed to align academy with first team and present a good vision for a modern sustainable football club. 
 

I think we were maybe a couple of seasons from seeing it come to fruition too. We were looking at having a team/squad with the potential of having Knight, Bird, Sibley, Thompson, Delap, Gordon, Kellyman, Cashin, Ebosele, Buchanan, Whitaker, Plange, and Williams all drawn from our own academy in it. We all know why it never happened, and the initial idea behind it may have been pushed by outside factors, but looking at the idea on paper it showed a club well aligned in philosophy, both in development and recruitment.

At the moment I don’t really know what the plan is. Academy players don’t seem to be anywhere near it. That might be due to the club being gutted and them not being to the standard but they never seem to be given a chance. The recruitment seems to be focused on older players, but they don’t appear to fit a system. Cocu spoke about having all teams playing the same way so younger players can step up, which seems really sensible, but currently our first team doesn’t seem to have a consistent way of playing let alone something aligned through the age groups. I think we could do with really setting out a clear goal and a philosophy and working towards it. It would really allow supporters to buy into the vision and direction. Build trust and patience. And, as I think supporters often back their academy graduates the most, really build a unity between team and fans. 

Fantastic post and what I have been crying out for all along

i I think anyone with eyes can see our current way of operating both on and off the pitch isn’t sustainable. Feels like every year we are gonna be approaching a rebuild and when warne goes somebody with a completely different playstyle will come in and need another rebuild 

I can’t fault warne for league position as he is doing what is asked of him. but deep down I worry there is no long term sustainability to what is happening and we will end up like rotherham if warne stays

I really hope he isn’t going back to a back 3 

4 hours ago, Mucker1884 said:

I never said it was nonsense, just intimating that he shows them an unhealthy* amount of love and respect, given the location of said posts*.

*All based on previous post history and therefore not just this one post.
Also just my personal opinion... which is never important, so don't worry yourself too much over it.  👍🍻 

to be honest i just watch a lot of premier league football because i have family interest and find myself watching a fair amount of forest matches. as a neutral i dont watch any of our league or championship. when im not watching us i am watch the prem. i just think half the stuff on this thread is petty and comes across as desperation when laughing at them ( like the attendences) whether you agree with me or you think i am a secret forest lover thats your prerogative

give it up wayne, you are not made to be a manager

We will need to back this disappointing result up with a few positive results to keep the momentum we built. worst thing that can happen now is we go on a bad run

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

It’s weird how people in England argue over attendances. It just doesn’t happen abroad.

Like I don’t think Leverkusen give two hoots that Schalke get bigger attendances than them.

Or Sevilla care that Real Betis get more bums on seats.

We’re all similar sized clubs, no bigger than Leicester, Bolton, Norwich, Blackburn, Southampton, Middlesbrough etc. And we’ll just fluctuate between midtable PL to top half League One until the day we die.

Pretty sure it’s only us that bring it up because we can’t really banter them on the pitch

also forest sell out every match I don’t get what point the attendance people are trying to make