Bianoic

I'd argue the opposite. Some fans don't feel they've earned their place and are in the team just becuase they're from the academy, give them abuse and call Bird a sideways passer as a result.
Take Huddersfield as an example. Bird was the only starting midfielder to have put in a 'key pass' (Sibley the only other during the game). He was one of just 3 midfielders to have had a shot during the game too (Sibley and Lawrence the others). However, talk after the game was of him being too negative, passing sideways and always hiding behind the opposition. Last season people said he wasn't contributing defensively, yet he was statistically almost identical to Shinnie.

Let me know, in the next say 30 to 45 minutes or so ( seeing as you know what is happening at every other club so well)  , what the season and match day ticket situation is at the following clubs ; 
Hartlepool United 
Ipswich Town
Norwich city 
Blackburn Rovers
Newcastle United 
 
 

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

NDA - "Not Doing Anything"?

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

Born just north of Derby. 
My dad had a season ticket at Derby from the late fifties - he and my mum moved down from the Tees where he grew up and where he used to go to see Cloughie at Ayresome. 
He took me to Ayresome a few times when we visited the grandparents. Hard to believe it was used in the 66 World Cup. When I was older I also tended to go to Hartlepool too. In those days you could walk around the whole ground and stand where you wanted, unlike the BBG which I started to go to from 1969. It amazed me that the hardcore home support used to change ends at half time !! It also horrified my sister when I took her once, needed a wee at half time only to be told there were no ladies toilets !! She never went back...
First Rams game a home league cup midweek game against Hull - 1969 I think. The lights from the floodlights and the overall atmosphere was just amazing to a 7 year old
Got my first season ticket after we had won the league. 
Went to college in Leeds in the early 80s , then stayed there to work until PP opened and thought it was about time I got back to the East Midlands and a season ticket ! So moved the family down from Yorkshire to North East Leics to start a new job. Sat in the North stand initially, moved seats a few times until settling on our current ones in the East Stand about 10 years ago.
Highlights :
Obviously the two championships - particularly remember my old man happily shouting me upstairs that Wolves had beaten Leeds to clinch it for us. And visiting the BBG for the presentation on a sunday I think ?
Really enjoyed the third division promotion season - went to a few of the Yorkshire away games : Donny, York, Grimsby
That first season at Pride Park was magnificent for many reasons. I know there is a huge nostalgia about the BBG (and I share it believe me) but it was time to move. It was also dangerous. I was at Hillsborough with a good Forest mate and it made me realise that the same could well have happened at the BBG when there was more terracing. Remember being in massive crushes outside the Normanton end on occasion when trying to get to the popside and literally not being able to put our feet on the ground. We just laughed at the time but it could have been a horror show.
Converting my son into an even more enthusiastic Ram fan than me. Initially he was a reluctant follower - nearest clubs were Forest and Leicester and of course there was never any chance of him supporting them. Used to occasionally come to PP but was more interested in playing footy than watching it. Then I had to persuade him to come to the Deforestation Day - we thrashed Forest 5 nil, the atmosphere and delirium were out of this world and that was that, he was hooked. Even more so after we went to the Play Off final that May - we were both so proud of how the team played that day even though we lost
Loved George Burleys play off team, Franks season, some of Nigels, 
Favourite players - John O Hare, Charlie, Bobby Davison, Deano, Stimac, Idiakz
 
 
 
 

Born just north of Derby. 
My dad had a season ticket at Derby from the late fifties - he and my mum moved down from the Tees where he grew up and where he used to go to see Cloughie at Ayresome. 
He took me to Ayresome a few times when we visited the grandparents. Hard to believe it was used in the 66 World Cup. When I was older I also tended to go to Hartlepool too. In those days you could walk around the whole ground and stand where you wanted, unlike the BBG which I started to go to from 1969. It amazed me that the hardcore home support used to change ends at half time !! It also horrified my sister when I took her once, needed a wee at half time only to be told there were no ladies toilets !! She never went back...
First Rams game a home league cup midweek game against Hull - 1969 I think. The lights from the floodlights and the overall atmosphere was just amazing to a 7 year old
Got my first season ticket after we had won the league. 
Went to college in Leeds in the early 80s , then stayed there to work until PP opened and thought it was about time I got back to the East Midlands and a season ticket ! So moved the family down from Yorkshire to North East Leics to start a new job. Sat in the North stand initially, moved seats a few times until settling on our current ones in the East Stand about 10 years ago.
Highlights :
Obviously the two championships - particularly remember my old man happily shouting me upstairs that Wolves had beaten Leeds to clinch it for us. And visiting the BBG for the presentation on a sunday I think ?
Really enjoyed the third division promotion season - went to a few of the Yorkshire away games : Donny, York, Grimsby
That first season at Pride Park was magnificent for many reasons. I know there is a huge nostalgia about the BBG (and I share it believe me) but it was time to move. It was also dangerous. I was at Hillsborough with a good Forest mate and it made me realise that the same could well have happened at the BBG when there was more terracing. Remember being in massive crushes outside the Normanton end on occasion when trying to get to the popside and literally not being able to put our feet on the ground. We just laughed at the time but it could have been a horror show.
Converting my son into an even more enthusiastic Ram fan than me. Initially he was a reluctant follower - nearest clubs were Forest and Leicester and of course there was never any chance of him supporting them. Used to occasionally come to PP but was more interested in playing footy than watching it. Then I had to persuade him to come to the Deforestation Day - we thrashed Forest 5 nil, the atmosphere and delirium were out of this world and that was that, he was hooked. Even more so after we went to the Play Off final that May - we were both so proud of how the team played that day even though we lost
Loved George Burleys play off team, Franks season, some of Nigels, 
Favourite players - John O Hare, Charlie, Bobby Davison, Deano, Stimac, Idiakz
 
 
 
 

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

Born just north of Derby. 
My dad had a season ticket at Derby from the late fifties - he and my mum moved down from the Tees where he grew up and where he used to go to see Cloughie at Ayresome. 
He took me to Ayresome a few times when we visited the grandparents. Hard to believe it was used in the 66 World Cup. When I was older I also tended to go to Hartlepool too. In those days you could walk around the whole ground and stand where you wanted, unlike the BBG which I started to go to from 1969. It amazed me that the hardcore home support used to change ends at half time !! It also horrified my sister when I took her once, needed a wee at half time only to be told there were no ladies toilets !! She never went back...
First Rams game a home league cup midweek game against Hull - 1969 I think. The lights from the floodlights and the overall atmosphere was just amazing to a 7 year old
Got my first season ticket after we had won the league. 
Went to college in Leeds in the early 80s , then stayed there to work until PP opened and thought it was about time I got back to the East Midlands and a season ticket ! So moved the family down from Yorkshire to North East Leics to start a new job. Sat in the North stand initially, moved seats a few times until settling on our current ones in the East Stand about 10 years ago.
Highlights :
Obviously the two championships - particularly remember my old man happily shouting me upstairs that Wolves had beaten Leeds to clinch it for us. And visiting the BBG for the presentation on a sunday I think ?
Really enjoyed the third division promotion season - went to a few of the Yorkshire away games : Donny, York, Grimsby
That first season at Pride Park was magnificent for many reasons. I know there is a huge nostalgia about the BBG (and I share it believe me) but it was time to move. It was also dangerous. I was at Hillsborough with a good Forest mate and it made me realise that the same could well have happened at the BBG when there was more terracing. Remember being in massive crushes outside the Normanton end on occasion when trying to get to the popside and literally not being able to put our feet on the ground. We just laughed at the time but it could have been a horror show.
Converting my son into an even more enthusiastic Ram fan than me. Initially he was a reluctant follower - nearest clubs were Forest and Leicester and of course there was never any chance of him supporting them. Used to occasionally come to PP but was more interested in playing footy than watching it. Then I had to persuade him to come to the Deforestation Day - we thrashed Forest 5 nil, the atmosphere and delirium were out of this world and that was that, he was hooked. Even more so after we went to the Play Off final that May - we were both so proud of how the team played that day even though we lost
Loved George Burleys play off team, Franks season, some of Nigels, 
Favourite players - John O Hare, Charlie, Bobby Davison, Deano, Stimac, Idiakz
 
 
 
 

Born and raised in Derby. My Dad took me to my first game when I was 3, not sure exactly when (he couldn't remember either, nor who we were playing) or why he suddenly decided to take me, but I do have a dim recollection of standing on the stub wall around the pitch in the Vulcan hanging on to the red hooped railing and later being dumped at the back of the Popside while he watched the rest of the game (I assume I got bored). He didn't take me again until a preseason friendly vs Hearts in 1967 I think, which is when I started to take an active interest in the Rams. I got my first season ticket and started going regularly in 69/70 (glory hunter). 
Left Derby at 19 to go to Uni and over the next 40 years, living and working in various places across the South-East, the last dozen or so years in the Smoke. In the early years I probably went to as many away games as home games, and sometimes economics determined that I only went to a dozen games a season, but when Pride Park was opened I decided to bite the bullet and get a ST again and I've been in the East Stand ever since. 
I'm now retired back in Derbyshire and appreciating not having to travel so much, but the Rams have always been the constant that has maintained my connections with the County, the City and my family and oldest friends. 
 

Blimey
Its quite , err, interesting on here, isn't it ? 

It’s refreshing to know that at least somebody knows exactly what is happening at ‘every other club’ 

Born just north of Derby. 
My dad had a season ticket at Derby from the late fifties - he and my mum moved down from the Tees where he grew up and where he used to go to see Cloughie at Ayresome. 
He took me to Ayresome a few times when we visited the grandparents. Hard to believe it was used in the 66 World Cup. When I was older I also tended to go to Hartlepool too. In those days you could walk around the whole ground and stand where you wanted, unlike the BBG which I started to go to from 1969. It amazed me that the hardcore home support used to change ends at half time !! It also horrified my sister when I took her once, needed a wee at half time only to be told there were no ladies toilets !! She never went back...
First Rams game a home league cup midweek game against Hull - 1969 I think. The lights from the floodlights and the overall atmosphere was just amazing to a 7 year old
Got my first season ticket after we had won the league. 
Went to college in Leeds in the early 80s , then stayed there to work until PP opened and thought it was about time I got back to the East Midlands and a season ticket ! So moved the family down from Yorkshire to North East Leics to start a new job. Sat in the North stand initially, moved seats a few times until settling on our current ones in the East Stand about 10 years ago.
Highlights :
Obviously the two championships - particularly remember my old man happily shouting me upstairs that Wolves had beaten Leeds to clinch it for us. And visiting the BBG for the presentation on a sunday I think ?
Really enjoyed the third division promotion season - went to a few of the Yorkshire away games : Donny, York, Grimsby
That first season at Pride Park was magnificent for many reasons. I know there is a huge nostalgia about the BBG (and I share it believe me) but it was time to move. It was also dangerous. I was at Hillsborough with a good Forest mate and it made me realise that the same could well have happened at the BBG when there was more terracing. Remember being in massive crushes outside the Normanton end on occasion when trying to get to the popside and literally not being able to put our feet on the ground. We just laughed at the time but it could have been a horror show.
Converting my son into an even more enthusiastic Ram fan than me. Initially he was a reluctant follower - nearest clubs were Forest and Leicester and of course there was never any chance of him supporting them. Used to occasionally come to PP but was more interested in playing footy than watching it. Then I had to persuade him to come to the Deforestation Day - we thrashed Forest 5 nil, the atmosphere and delirium were out of this world and that was that, he was hooked. Even more so after we went to the Play Off final that May - we were both so proud of how the team played that day even though we lost
Loved George Burleys play off team, Franks season, some of Nigels, 
Favourite players - John O Hare, Charlie, Bobby Davison, Deano, Stimac, Idiakz
 
 
 
 

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

Still moaning though ?

Yep. Hull gave us their tickets three weeks ago.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Oh, hang on a minute....

I understand your frustration Donegal and I totally sympathise
The wider issue is that businesses are going through, and have had to go through, the single most disruptive and unpredictable period since the second world war in the early 1940s, eighty years ago, in another world.
The next issue is that the pandemic has created some incredibly difficult problems for businesses who provide large audience entertainment 
Then, we also have a micro issue of a local owner who has spent over £200m of his own money, who is saying enough is enough, and who is also not in good health, according to reports. 
Granted, Mel has been his own worst enemy on many occassions
Lets be kind, and cut them some slack given all the above 
 
 
 
 

I think some people envisage Mel sitting in a darkened room, white furry cat on his lap, twizzling the ends of a long moustache and letting out little sinister chuckles randomly as he finds new ways to upset people. 
 


I’m sure none of this is the case. For all of Mel’s mistakes or errors of judgement (and for all the annoyances of the ticketing system and parking and everything else) I still refuse to believe that he or the club are doing anything to deliberately upset or inconvenience fans. There are probably good reasons for everything (or at least ‘reasons’) and anybody using things like this to find another stick to hit the club with is being a bit unfair imho.

Sorry I have been out this afternoon and I have now sent B4 the contact number he needs. 
Of course I meant DCFC supporters group, I don't know if people really thought I meant Alfreton Town or if you're just taking the piss when I am trying to be helpful! 

Just really really short of CBs and strikers. But we'll make do and mend until the EFL loosen their grip! #COYR

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

Or, thanks Mel, His legacy might just be his serious academy investment … worth pondering and the same time as the lost gambles and over paying for other players that got us in this mess 

There are those that criticise the club on occasion and with very good reason.
There are those that criticise the club at every possible turn, seizing any opportunity to have another dig.
Thank whatever higher deity you like that there are people like @Ghost of Clough and @angieram around who are the voices of reason, who are able to judge each issue on its relative merits and comment rationally, calmly and logically.