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Our overspending was before his time, so by that logic shouldn’t we just forget the whole points deduction thing and get on with our lives!? It was a feeble excuse that should have been challenged. 

I’m hoping this whole situation will lead to fans having a reset in their expectations and demands about the club going forward.   We’ve nearly gone bust, we may yet still go bust although that’s now (for the moment anyway) thankfully looking less likely. 
 
First and foremost now above all else we need a club that lives within its means and is sustainable as much as it can be. If we buy players they have to be the right players. For those slating the academy, if we can keep it together it will really come to fruition in the next 2-3 years, Bird Buchanan Sibley Knight are all potential premier league players, Stretton Williams McDonald Ebosele Watson Thompson Brown all look excellent prospects and there’s probably others behind them that I have missed.
The academy needs to be the centre of what we do alongside sensible recruitment to a plan and a strategy. This is key any money we spend we have to do it with a view of making a return on that investment, this can only be done by data driven targeting of players with right attributes age and potential. We won’t make money in all cases we will lose money in some cases but with a clear plan and strategy behind signings we should have a net gain.
They also need to support a set style of play, giving us the chance to progress year on year and build success sustainably. Managerial recruitment also needs to be done on this basis, if we sack a manager we appoint another one who will follow the same plan . 
We need to move away from boom and bust, it might mean more seasons of mediocrity than success but at least wed have a club at a relatively high level in the pyramid. In the meantime, hopefully, the premier league will listen to the EFL and work with them under an independent regulator to reform the game and make it a more level playing field.

I think this might or has to be different considering we have just gone into admin through wreckless spending. I want patience and sensible buys. If anyone moans about not spending money then they are just downright idiotic considering this is where we are now 

No - Mel's actions prevented us from meeting the criteria laid down in the rules.
However, the reason we didn't get the funding is a a moot point - the fact is that ALL of the other Championship clubs were provided with over £8M to help them deal with the effects of Covid. We didn't get that funding which made the impact of the pandemic far greater on us and therefore gives us a valid case to argue against the 12-point deduction.....

I was very happy under GSE because the way the club was run was viable in the long term. If I remember correctly, they really had a big push to increase revenue in to the club. I think the big video screen was installed under their tenure increase advertising revenue, iPro stadium was embarrassing but I’m sure it brought in a fair amount of cash.
Im sure no investor coming in is going to magically pay off our debt, especially if they are looking to buy back the stadium and training ground. It’s going to be a long road back now but I would welcome someone who is going to come in, focus on making us commercially viable again, gradually pay off the debts and keep us competitive (even if that means another 10 years in the championship). 
 
if we have a good solid base and then all of a sudden 1-2 really good youth prospects come through or a really good lower league transfer (Jamie Vardy-esque), they could either push us on or be sold to finance a promotion push. Without parachute payments it is the only way we will ever get back to the prem. Having a sugar daddy come in and buy our way there just isn’t realistic.

It's hard to say much on here without getting towards defamation. There's a huge irony that MM tried to remove Sam Rush on the basis of a 'lack of fiduciary duty'. 
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Don't forget that it was Sam Rush who appointed Steve McClaren and could arguably be stated as the catalyst for our recent successes - 2014... 
If there's one thing that turns my stomach, it's the phrase "League of Gentleman". We were promoted in 2007 largely because of one man, working with modest funding.
Where's Mel's fiduciary duty? Did he think that's what he was doing sticking the club in Admin?  

Exactly my thoughts . 
Fans are still expecting a promo push either in league 1 or championship . I would think in league 1 we can possibly just . But in the championship to be a level based club living within their means there isnt a chance of a promotion push unless where incredibly good in buying in low value excellent players . 
What this has brought home to me is just how unfair the championship is i guess ive always known it but its taken Derby poss going under to properly understand it and for it to sink home . I do have a little bit of sympathy for Mel chasing the dream he has had to . But not at the expense of how he has now pulled out and left Derby possibly going bust .Even though i secretly think he knows a buyer is there for certain and thats why its been done . 

Ironically the biggest point in our favour is that EFL rules prevented us from accessing the additional £8M+ funding that was provided to every other Championship club - thereby making the impact of Covid far greater on us than anyone else. A pretty strong argument and one the EFL would find difficult to provide a valid arguement against....

To be honest, if we still have our beloved club to support in Div I at Pride Park next season I'll be happy.

They only became truly appreciated between October 2013 and February 2015. I seem to recall allot of "Slick Glick" and "get the Yanks out" comments. Even if they came back, it wouldn't be long before a certain section of the fanbase started to resent them. But they'd be good custodians imo. 

Efl need to sort it out otherwise without clarity they will put off the new owners .

it depends if you want boom and bust, the boom of Mel's spending was exciting but its not nice when it ends 

Only been to the Notts County match in pre season since covid, and finances and youth football commitments have prevented me from being at PP on Saturdays for a long time.
Taking my lad on Wednesday night to do my very small bit to back the boys. COYR!

If we can get to anywhere near what we had pre-COVID which was near 27,000 then that would be a huge effort for a midweek game, especially as Reading won't bring a huge following. 
It's bound to be a great atmosphere regardless. I'm really looking forward to the game. 

Tweet 'em and tag it #dcfc so Derby fans can read it:
https://twitter.com/Ramsfan_Jim or https://twitter.com/RamsTrust
 

The Administrators need to hear that - can we link it through Rams Trust? How do we communicate to Rams Trust? Are they a secret society? 

Cheers, I just assumed it was the norm now. This is the kind of thing Ramstrust or the supporters clubs should be taking up with the Administrators, as you say.

Exactly. Why as a long-standing season ticket holder can I simply not buy an extra ticket for a mate on my account to boost the attendance and put cash into the club. It’s madness. 

For tonight’s league match at Coventry v Peterborough you can get tickets from the ground up until till 6.30 for a 7.45 kick off and Coventry still have matches where you can pay at cash turnstiles.
It really is desperate that the administrators sort out the ticketing situation ASAP……….cashflow lads, cashflow!

Does anyone know if the requirement for an account for every ticket is a legal requirement for Covid or is it merely a Derby “rule”. IMO this is costing the club hundreds if not thousands of ticket sales. 

I will be buying an extra 3 tickets for my daughter and grand kids for the Swansea game they haven’t been since Wembley and can’t wait 

No.
These things don't tend to work out.
Let Wayne concentrate on the football.

100%. His interview today was inspirational. Didn't want him as manager but he's pretty much all we've got at the moment. Completely genuine, honest and grounded. Can't think of many previous managers who wouldn't have bailed out months ago, with the probable exception of Nigel Clough.

Can we get him to say “me duck”? ?

The hardcore 14,000,the away fans, they are right behind Wayne, his name is sang often. It's time for everybody to back him, he is all we've got and im glad he is here. COYR