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Can't see us staying up from here. We need to win at least three to equal Reading's 37 points and on top of that match whatever points they get in their remaining games which should be at least a couple of draws on current form.

This. If the deadline is 1700 on 28th February then the administrators should contact the EFL directly (not by email, voicemail, text message or carrier pigeon) with at least an update to explain the delay before the deadline passes. 
That's just basic courtesy and competence.

It is up to the administrators to make contact with the EFL not the other way round.

The point of it is to do exactly what they intended to do which is put in the public domain that our administrators have neither shown them proof of funding for the rest of the season by an agreed deadline and also don't have a preferred bidder in place yet.
If you agree to a deadline why the hell would you then not go back to submit the necessary evidence by that deadline and have the other party chase you for it. Its weird. 

Oh come on. There’s no need to worry. Quantuma have got this sorted, just you watch….

Because the EFL shouldn't be having to phone them for an update,the onus is on the administrators to keep the EFL informed. If they can't give them an update,or won't, then you can't be surprised by the EFL's stance, certainly no point scoring on their behalf.

You only have to look at the messages of support from fans of other clubs. It's clear that the dislike and lack of respect for the EFL is universal.
Their lack of support for Wigan, Bolton and others was shocking. Bury, it was a disgrace.
I think it's clear that the EFL is not fit for purpose. Amateur old men with self interests.
Football, as a whole, is no longer the people's game. The Premier League is all that matters to the media in this country. But it was the European Super League that really showed that the money people do not care about the supporters - just the revenue with which they line their pockets.
I do not know where Tracey Crouch is with the investigation and report into football governance.
However, I am sure that the loss of such a big club as Derby County, champions of England 50 years ago and founders of the Football League, will create an earthquake in the game. It will shake things up.
The EFL will simply not survive.

Are you lavigne with me?

Sorry but I can't agree. I think anyone is, and should be, open to ridicule. Particularly if they hold, and put forth, an opinion that is contrary to all available evidence.
But I'm not trying to ridicule anyone, OK I used the word "blind" which was perhaps rather harsh, and I apologise for any offence caused, but we are posting on a thread entitled "I think Derby can stay up" here. Which in my mind is ridiculous. And so I called it out as such.
As I said, if you honestly believe we can stay up then that's fine, and perhaps I need to acquire some similar unfounded optimism from somewhere, but as yet it eludes me.

Fine. Like I said, you do you.

If you want to indulge yourself with silly fantasies about us getting enough points to remain in this league then fine. You do you. But I think ultimately that's self-defeating.
I hope whoever is still running things at the club is rather more perspicacious.

She finished singing weeks ago
It's laughable how blind some people are on here

"League One, Now"
Isn't that a Joni Mitchell b-side?

"League One, Now"
Isn't that a Joni Mitchell b-side?

Well some big revelations today. Notably the losses were considerably more than we had been led to believe and upon restating the accounts in line with the way the EFL want them doing (not going to say rules as there’s still nothing in the rule book to say it should be straight-line) and the rest of the league comply with we incurred multiple points breaches in excess of the 9 we’ve been given. In other words we’ve got off lightly it could’ve been worse, not that it really makes any difference now. 
 
Are the EFL vindicated? Absolutely not. Doesn’t change the fact they’ve allowed a competition that is grossly unfair with parachute payments and allowing bigger losses for those clubs, brought in P&S rules that are vague in some parts, complex in others and don’t really protect the integrity of the league, they don’t punish clubs who are promoted, they allow the additional dodgy practices of Wolves’ Mendes deal and use of loan system and deferring payments to essentially make top half premier league signings, they allow the dodgy practices of Watford and Forest who move players between clubs to dodge FFP. The way they have singled out Derby is a gross hypocrisy, entirely political, vindictive and is in no way about protecting the integrity of the league. If it was they’d be finding ways to go after Wolves Leicester Leeds, they’d have punished Bournemouth again upon relegation, they’d be stopping Forest’s loophole of moving players between clubs and they would be clamping down on Stoke’s dodgy practices around Covid. They are not. They are a joke of an organisation, odious to the core, and an independent regulator is badly needed.
However the EFL is not in any way to blame for our predicament, that honour falls to one man. If he’d stuck around then we might have forgiven him an FFP breach but he plunged us into administration as well and said it was in the best interests of the club. Given what has gone on, given the FFP deal the EFL put on the table to Mel is effectively the one we have now, I can see no benefit to administration other than Mel didn’t want to fund the losses any more caused by his crippling mismanagement and exacerbated by Covid, this when losses now are a great deal smaller than earlier in his stewardship. We are in this because of Mel and Stephen Pearce and no one else. 
We need to take our medicine and rebuild. The critical thing is we get a new owner by Jan as if not we could face a January that will set us back years. Get an owner in, we might be able to bounce back quickly. 
 
Final point on the EFL, will they relinquish the highly restrictive embargo should we get new owners willing to stand behind us? I get retaining it while we’re still in admin but to continue it post takeover is unnecessarily draconian and vindictive. And also, they cited a breach of the 19/20 and 20/21 merged P&S period in the judgement, so will points deductions apply when about half the league fail this accounting period? How can they not with wage bills significantly larger than ours and significant reduced revenue through Covid. 
 
The one positive is our costs are now under much better control, with a buyer, a ground (the last decent thing you can do Mel) and retaining our academy status then we will be in an excellent place to rebuild. But we need that buyer and quickly!!

Even without any points deductions we'd only be three points above relegation so any thoughts of staying up now are pure fantasy

Even without any points deductions we'd only be three points above relegation so any thoughts of staying up now are pure fantasy

Even without any points deductions we'd only be three points above relegation so any thoughts of staying up now are pure fantasy

There's only one person to blame for all of this, one..
He's lied to us, conned us and left us high and dry.
The EFL are applying rules that are in place for every single club. 
We've lost more than we should. 
Morris tried to flount the rules, failed and left us.
Putting us in administration was the final nail.
But if you wanna sing F the EFL for applying punishments to us for breaking rules that we knew were there and knew what the punishment would be then go ahead.

Good performance? Some decent chances?
Don't give a chef
What we need are wins, and I can't see any coming

I still don't think he's the greatest manager football-wise but his actions during this farce have turned even this world-weary cynic's opinion of him. He simply couldn't have done more for the club.
We're lucky to have him.

I still don't think he's the greatest manager football-wise but his actions during this farce have turned even this world-weary cynic's opinion of him. He simply couldn't have done more for the club.
We're lucky to have him.

I still don't think he's the greatest manager football-wise but his actions during this farce have turned even this world-weary cynic's opinion of him. He simply couldn't have done more for the club.
We're lucky to have him.

I still don't think he's the greatest manager football-wise but his actions during this farce have turned even this world-weary cynic's opinion of him. He simply couldn't have done more for the club.
We're lucky to have him.