Alty_Ram

ouch.... doesn't make great reading. Much as we expected to a degree in that the scale of claims if not ruled out as football debt will render the club valueless. Seems quite black and white really. Boro and Wycombe's actions along with EFL complicity will finish the club because regardless of what they think there is no magic pot of money buried under the corner flag that can pay for these claims. Do they still wonder why they are being portrayed as the bad guys now ?

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Great that he mentions Bury too, If we can get ourselves out of this mess and on an even keel then I really hope that we can arrange some sort of friendly to help them in some small way to get back on their feet.
To quote Jack "I don't want to jump the gun here, but I think once all this is settled and whatever situation we find ourselves in, we do have a duty to turn our focus to resurrecting Bury as a football club." 

Jack is correct on so many points.
And when this nightmare is finally over, we should rally round and push Bury's cause.
Doesn't mean we forgive them for the cup final defeat but, even so, they should be in the league.

Safe to say the Wycombe owner isn’t as well-informed as he thinks . . . 

I listened to that grinding my teeth but frankly none of that was any real surprise from an American businessman. There was always zero chance of him just going "yeah, you're probably right, I'll withdraw our action". Culturally legal action is taken at the drop of a hat and he won't give a rats ass about tradition and history or fans and local businesses. As much if not more than Gibson this guy would happily see us extinguished without giving it a 2nd thought.
Fundamentally though both he and Gibbo seem to be under the impression that there is a pot of money that we can dip into to make this go away. The only pots of money belong to people who have not yet agreed to take on a financial basket case of a club and that is borderline worth already. Meanwhile our playing assets are at risk and that would further degrade the potential value. Honestly, I just have no idea how this end. I was delighted to see the raising of the profile earlier in parliament but the radio silence from Administrators is rather worrying.

I listened to that grinding my teeth but frankly none of that was any real surprise from an American businessman. There was always zero chance of him just going "yeah, you're probably right, I'll withdraw our action". Culturally legal action is taken at the drop of a hat and he won't give a rats ass about tradition and history or fans and local businesses. As much if not more than Gibson this guy would happily see us extinguished without giving it a 2nd thought.
Fundamentally though both he and Gibbo seem to be under the impression that there is a pot of money that we can dip into to make this go away. The only pots of money belong to people who have not yet agreed to take on a financial basket case of a club and that is borderline worth already. Meanwhile our playing assets are at risk and that would further degrade the potential value. Honestly, I just have no idea how this end. I was delighted to see the raising of the profile earlier in parliament but the radio silence from Administrators is rather worrying.

I listened to that grinding my teeth but frankly none of that was any real surprise from an American businessman. There was always zero chance of him just going "yeah, you're probably right, I'll withdraw our action". Culturally legal action is taken at the drop of a hat and he won't give a rats ass about tradition and history or fans and local businesses. As much if not more than Gibson this guy would happily see us extinguished without giving it a 2nd thought.
Fundamentally though both he and Gibbo seem to be under the impression that there is a pot of money that we can dip into to make this go away. The only pots of money belong to people who have not yet agreed to take on a financial basket case of a club and that is borderline worth already. Meanwhile our playing assets are at risk and that would further degrade the potential value. Honestly, I just have no idea how this end. I was delighted to see the raising of the profile earlier in parliament but the radio silence from Administrators is rather worrying.

I listened to that grinding my teeth but frankly none of that was any real surprise from an American businessman. There was always zero chance of him just going "yeah, you're probably right, I'll withdraw our action". Culturally legal action is taken at the drop of a hat and he won't give a rats ass about tradition and history or fans and local businesses. As much if not more than Gibson this guy would happily see us extinguished without giving it a 2nd thought.
Fundamentally though both he and Gibbo seem to be under the impression that there is a pot of money that we can dip into to make this go away. The only pots of money belong to people who have not yet agreed to take on a financial basket case of a club and that is borderline worth already. Meanwhile our playing assets are at risk and that would further degrade the potential value. Honestly, I just have no idea how this end. I was delighted to see the raising of the profile earlier in parliament but the radio silence from Administrators is rather worrying.

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Haha, that has to be a WUM surely ! He knows for a fact that Gibson is doing everything he can to help Derby ! Outstanding ?

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Her tone yesterday was by far the most combative so lets see. If she does have a good grasp on things then it would be good to get her to convey this to the other politicians who appear to have completely fallen for the EFL Jedi mind tricks.
"Hey ! these claims are spurious and unfair and you encouraging them is endangering the future of DCFC"
*waves hand on Zoom call* "These are not the spurious claims that you are looking for.."
"These are not the spurious claims that we are looking for..." *walks off*

Omg she used the extended version of the word bug. 
 
she is furious with them basically. Speaking very passionately. 

Here's a thing. Just been on the Sheffield Wednesday board because I was curious as another team that was penalised what they would make of the situation as opposed to some of the 'butter wouldn't melt' brigade that we hear so much from. Some remarkably lucid stuff here that seems to grasp the crux of the issue.. Fair play and I hope you'll forgive me quoting you Owls fans.
"£45million because it was Derbys fault Middlesbrough went on a 6 game losing streak between March and April costing them a play off place? Perhaps if his side actually made an effort to attack Aston Villa in the previous play off campaign, they may have been in the PL that season. What a loser Gibson has become"
 "I don't really get how boro have got a claim for that amount tbh. Was it sorted in court or via the EFL? Is it legitimate or is it pube head trying it on cos he doesn't like other teams having parachute payments etc  but was fine when they had em? As far as I know he doesnt make the rules." 
"They haven’t been awarded anything. It’s pending legal action."
"They can make almost any claim they want. If it was tested in court, I doubt Middlesbrough would be awarded damages anything like that, even if they won."
"The problem for Derby’s administrators is that they don’t have the time or money to fight it in court."
"Are Bristol City looking at suing as well? They gave up after Derby beat them 2-0 at their place (3rd last game of the season). Had they won or draw that game, they would have probably beaten Hull City that season to get 6th place instead of Middlesbrough. Their goal difference would have been better than Boro's. "
"Isn't Gibbo going after us still because we beat Middlesbrough 1-0 that season at their place? Those dropped points didn't help "
"Why are the EFL insisting Boros claim is dealt with ??   It’s a nonsense claim that hasn’t been through the courts so why do the EFL find it reasonable to hold back a takeover on the basis of Boros ‘claim’ "