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27 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said:

Since we’re apparently going to try get prem loans, what about Omari Kellyman, apparently didn’t want to leave at all but did it for the good of the club. 
 

He’s played 4 times for Villa this season and looks a real talent, constantly being selected for their bench. I’m sure he’d happily come back for a season.

Not actually a bad shout. Removing the bias of him being here as a kid, it's the type of loan we should be looking at anyway in this league.

55 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Agreed. However, we should, IMO, temper our expectations. Clowes has been clear from day 1 that the club will be run sustainably and be self sufficient. i.e. he's not going to throw millions at it. We'll spend what we can afford and no more than that. If it takes 2 or 3 seasons to start challenging for the top 6, so be it.

Obviously, top 6 is where I'd love to be this time next year. I'm just not going to run that particular flag up the pole as it's a perfectly normal wish but not a likely probability. Midtable would do me fine under the circumstances. If we do better, you won't find me complaining about it. 

Of course, I've said on another thread something like 12-17th would be a good result. But as far as recruitment goes, no restrictions other than our own budget will be fascinating to see who we end up targeting to try and achieve the style of play he's spoken about.

20 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

Pretty slim pickings TBH.

Albrighton has always been reliable and would be a good squad player for a year.

Iheanacho would be great.

Shudder to think how much they pay Iheanacho.

Just now, Caerphilly Ram said:

Beebooopbeeepboooooop….

Would some of these be good signings?

 

I'll wait for Oldben to post this before reading it, thanks.

18 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

@DavesaRam The lift was right 🙂

On the PW front, I'm expecting to see more of his post 3rd promotion with RUFC football than that of the first 2 he had with them. In the weeks leading up to us nicking him, their fans were waxing lyrical about the results and the style of play being served up. An expansive style. I hope my expectations become a reality.

Warne has always talked a pretty good game with regarding what he likes. Fast, athletic, pressing, front-foot etc etc. Aligns with what I'd to see too.

He's always been hamstrung in delivering that with the players we've had at our disposal and those we could realistically get under restrictions. This is a major chance to see if he can actually put those ideas onto the pitch.

8 hours ago, RodleyRam said:

Better than expected?! Wow you're tough to please! The guy nearly bagged 20 goals, missed a fair chunk of games as he was really hurting his stride and was instrumental in setting the tone for the never say die attitude that was the single biggest factor in our promotion. But as you were proven right to dismiss him once, no doubt you'll be proven right again.

14 league goals with numerous penalties, don't go overboard.

He won't be hitting double figures this season. There's nothing wrong with being a realist. Warne dropped him last season as he wasn't good, tried to replace him in the summer and failed. He performed above expectations, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have been better had we managed to get a replacement. And it certainly doesn't mean he's somehow going to go and perform in the Championship at 33. Bit part muscle when we need to get stuck in is a perfectly fine role for him.

20 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Not a chance we would be able to afford Burrows

Yeah, the list is clearly guff. 

17 minutes ago, Carnero said:

Prices have always gone up after the initial ("early bird") deadline 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, not sure why this is a surprise. There would be no need to have an early bird renewal phase otherwise. 

6 hours ago, RodleyRam said:

Some people had that view going into this season... 

yup, I did. And he did better than expected. I’d have still preferred we had signed someone instead, like. Now you’re asking him to do it again at a higher standard? No ta. 

2 hours ago, Carnero said:

Also:

"but Washington didn't play in enough games to activate the clause that would have swelled the coffers at AESSEAL New York Stadium. The Millers will still be in the money as long as the Northern Ireland international reaches a certain number of appearances next term."

Another reason to probably let him go this summer, even if it's out on loan.

One of those you'd let him go on a free if you could find a taker for his wages.

Nailed on it will be a relegated team or Leeds, and it'll be on TV.

11 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I thought the same, might be “misreading” him but he spoke like he’s still going to be a part of things and I’m keen for that to happen.

As long as we don't bumble into the season with him being 1st, or even 2nd, choice then we can live with that.

45 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

It's fair to say we'll have a midtable wage bill next season. The same can't be said about transfer fees. This season, only 5 clubs spent less than £2m (according to Transfermarkt), a figure I'll be amazed if we exceed. If you exclude player sales from all clubs, I would still expect our total budget (wages plus fees) to be lower midtable (13th-18th).
Preston's wage bill was £21m in 22/23. We'll be closer to Swansea, Blackburn and QPR who were in the £25-26m region last season. Swansea and Blackburn both having a cat 1 academy so are reasonable comparisons in relation to first team budget.

Big problem we have, in order to compete with these teams, is finding cheap talent or academy prospects and getting the big money. Swansea and Blackburn, for example, sold Joel Piroe and Adam Wharton for over £30m combined. QPR, the other team you mentioned, haven't sold anyone for much value and have totaled £3-4m in a couple of seasons in sales and haven't paid money for anyone themselves since 21/22 season. The contrast is stark.

1 hour ago, On the Ram Page said:

Why would the club announce their transfer budget and force the price up by the selling clubs knowing what we have available?

They shouldn't. Don't know if that was a specific question to me or not.

58 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

Has anyone connected with Derby actually come out and even alluded to what our transfer budget will be this summer, whether we will have to sell first to outlay on transfer fees etc etc?

Sell who? The only player we have with value is Cashin!

But no, other than us being competitive and not there to make up the numbers, we don’t know. And those statements don’t really tell you much either as that’s different to different people. 

It’s a fair ask though, do we think we will spend more than £1m on anyone? I’m dubious. 

3 hours ago, DerbyPride said:

How about the Sammon Stand or Claude Corner?

Maybe if we just named Row Z after them?

apparently available for around £300k. Would hope we would be thinking about that. 

57 minutes ago, BOB BIGGS said:

Szmodics is rated at around £4m so I think we can forget that unfortunately. 

Blackburn are quoting people £15m for Szmodics so not sure where you’ve read £4m. It’s nonsense like, he’s 29, they ain’t getting £15m. 

2 minutes ago, Ian Buxton's Bat said:

I think we have to retain the ball better in the Champ because we won't get it back as easily off better players and they will punish us more harshly when we do give it away.

Only two players have over 80% pass accuracy for this season and that's Nyambe and Hourihane.

I'd keep Hourihane as a squad player for that reason - and he does provide goals and assists - but I think we'll need a tweaked style of play and not just players who are better at doing what we've done.

If you look on Whoscored stats there's a reasonable trend between number of players with pass accuracy over 80% and league position for the Champ.

I just don't understand what you can possibly have watched to think Hourihane would be good enough for another League 1 season, let alone a Championship one. We wouldn't get the ball back to be able to keep it with him in midfield!

Curtis Nelson: 10
Callum Elder: 4
Joe Ward: 6
Sonny Bradley: 4
Josh Vickers: 6
Kane Wilson: 8
Martyn Waghorn: 4
Conor Washington: 5 
Tyrese Fornah: 6
Elliot Embleton: 1
Ryan Nyambe: 8
Tyreece John-Jules: 5

Winter:

Ebou Adams: 10
Dwight Gayle: 7
Corey Blackett-Taylor: 6
Max Bird*: 7

Extensions:
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing: 9
Eiran Cashin: 10
Jake Rooney: 8

4 minutes ago, S8TY said:

personally not sure he'll be good enough for championship, impact player from the bench at best maybe

does anyone know if we are obligated to buy ?

rather we put  the 300K towards Adams fee

Money will be tight and we really need to spend it wisely

 

 

It’s already done. 
 

FWIW, I think he showed flashes but clearly struggled for fitness and to seemingly get involved in a tight knit squad. Think pre-season will be huge for him and allow Warne to work on his defensive game to enable him to be trusted a bit more. He will be an asset next year, I’ve seen enough to believe that. 

The coffee cup game was better than the 5-0 for me. Dont know whether it was jus the expectations at the time or my age, but I’ve always loved that. 

Southampton play off semi. Pitch invasion in torrential rain. Epic that was. 

Matlock probably the first one, then I imagine we will go abroad again. Maybe even to the same place as it clearly worked last year. Chesterfield again would be fine too with them getting promoted. Maybe Wolves or Villa if we are going premier league at home. 

Think Warne will be targeting 22-28 primarily. This guy will be 30 before the new season. Now whilst that isn't over the hill necessarily, I can't see us signing many the wrong side of 30.

10 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said:

Some have commented on the poor start Bradley made and I can't disagree but those first 2 or 3 home games there was a total lack of understanding in the back 3 and for me, Nelson was as much at fault as Bradley - all too often it was a case of "after you Claude". Apart from his red card aberration he has more than done enough to be brought back into the team.

I would release Waghorn, Hourihane, Gayle, JJ & Loach and try to move on Washington, Fornah & Elder.

I wouldn't feel comfortable with Bradley starting games. He has his use, mainly attacking set pieces. But he's slow as hell, tentative and his first thought is to wrestle.

He apparently played well away at Cambridge but I didn't watch that game. From the games I've watched, he's done well when we've not been asked to defend which isn't exactly a good measuring stick.