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Warne really didn’t bring Washington in ‘in desperation’. He bought him previously for Rovrum and he bought him again because he obviously rates him. He was his striker pick. Frankly he was, and always will be, a very poor choice.
There is no point buying a holding midfielder if Warne wants to persist with his tactics. It’s like buying a caravan for a Porsche Boxster.
If we had a decent alternative coach I would be fully behind getting another midfielder in, but not sure it would be a holding type. One who could pass forward and run with some intensity creating in the middle would be ideal.
 

If we sell fornah we’re crazy.

Is your position that unless we successfully outbid every other club in this division for every player we are in for, our financial and other advantages 'count for nowt'?
No matter how much we've already spent elsewhere? Or how much we actually want the player in question?
We clearly have huge advantages over other League One clubs in terms of finances and facilities. We've assembled what must be one of the best-paid squads in the division. It's bizarre anyone would feel the need to deny it. 

Is your position that unless we successfully outbid every other club in this division for every player we are in for, our financial and other advantages 'count for nowt'?
No matter how much we've already spent elsewhere? Or how much we actually want the player in question?
We clearly have huge advantages over other League One clubs in terms of finances and facilities. We've assembled what must be one of the best-paid squads in the division. It's bizarre anyone would feel the need to deny it. 

I'm sorry I don't understand what you are trying to argue here. You seem fixated on the idea that being outbid on a player negates everything I have put forward to back up my point that Warne has been backed and has got access to some of the most bountiful resources in the league. It doesn't.
Warne has been backed and we still look like less than the sum of our parts as a squad. We can and should be applying those advantages more effectively. That's on him as the manager, the buck stops with him.

Is your position that unless we successfully outbid every other club in this division for every player we are in for, our financial and other advantages 'count for nowt'?
No matter how much we've already spent elsewhere? Or how much we actually want the player in question?
We clearly have huge advantages over other League One clubs in terms of finances and facilities. We've assembled what must be one of the best-paid squads in the division. It's bizarre anyone would feel the need to deny it. 

...and I don't understand your desire to embellish the job he's doing while using 'cautionary tales' as a distraction.
The expectation from inside and outside the club is that we're challenging for the top two, but the way you talk it would be acceptable / understandable if we were 12th.
The failure of other teams to do what they're supposed to is not our business. The relegated teams have their own s*** to sort out, we've got a year's preparation / 'progress' on them.
I know the league is weaker this year because I watch our games and see the quality of opposition, I see how poorly we can play and get away with it simply due to having just two or three players who can pull out that little bit of class every now and then, while the opposition broadly fail to capitalise on our mistakes.
 
Who said anything about it being an irretrievable disaster?

Completely the opposite IMO.
Warne came in after the majority of the hard work was done, he was handed what was already a top 8 (potentially top 6) squad and has since been allowed to bring in a good number of players, albeit limited on transfer fees, on wages higher than the majority of our competition can pay.
Added to that, his first full season in charge is one in which the quality of the opposition we face is below standard in an already low quality league, owing to 2 of the relegated teams having points deductions with Reading particularly in a mess.
I can't think of any manager in living memory other than perhaps Lampard with an easier brief. (Should have got us promoted with the standard of loan player we had, but he was also up against teams with even greater spending power)
That's not to say that it's dead simple, that there aren't still challenges we face, but he's not a rookie manager, getting out of League One is his speciality and he should fully be expected to achieve that with the resources he's been given.
Warne is supposed to be our trump card, but at times it's more like he's a joker in the pack 
 

It's such a false dichotomy you're posing. You strip out the context and pose a pointless question which no one can really answer. If over time you play well more often than not you'll win more games than lose. If over time you play poorly you'll see your form drop off. What people are concerned about is a pattern of poor play which will see results drop off.
Personally, if we had played well over the past 6 weeks and we played well yesterday and lost I'd be less concerned than seeing consistent patterns of poor play as we saw yesterday and winning. Winning when playing poorly is acceptable and even the mark of a good team if it occurs occasionally. If it happens consistently it speaks to something much more concerning that has the potential to go badly wrong. A bit like our terrible start to the season which could have seen Warne given the chop.

That post makes no sense.
You are asking how fans would cope which suggests a scenario that they are in charge, yet you just list things that are person in charge could change.
 

That’s a good summary of Warne’s tactics

They are doing what he wants though. That's the problem.

Ridiculous from Hourihane there!
He had acres of space to drive central towards the area possibly even shoot……..but he was so focused on getting it pointlessly wide he didn’t see the space.
Absolutely dreadful

Apart from the football, that first half was excellent.

I got assaulted earlier today on my way to town. It was more enjoyable than this game so far. At least it gave me an adrenaline rush.

That's exactly why it should not need 'a moment of magic' to beat them. Our tactics are just so... poor

That's exactly why it should not need 'a moment of magic' to beat them. Our tactics are just so... poor

Honestly. How entitled are our fans, expecting to turn up against a team in the league one relegation zone. Deluded.

Think this is right and also why we often struggle against better teams, with better stocked midfields. I personally don't like it - I'd rather be one of those teams that pack midfield and win the battle rather than avoiding it. 
Either way this is hardly a new problem and Warne's had a lot time to come up with a workable plan b. 

Please don't take this the wrong way, as I think you are an excellent poster, but you can sometimes be weirdly pedantic and binary about things like this. 
Surely it's reasonable to assume these players are on very good deals for League One? As in it's highly unlikely they are not?

The bar he needs to clear isn't 'getting them all right'. That would be unreasonable. 
I think he's had too many misses and not enough hits. Even Nyambe (a hit) was the third right back he signed. Presumably because he realised his two previous signings weren't up to the job (they weren't helped by his complete u-turn on preferred formation after he'd spent all the money).
I guess we disagree as to whether big-money signings like Bradley, Ward, Elder, Washington are indeed 'bedding in', or if they represent bad business. Whether Fornah just needs time or will forever be lightweight and error prone. Personally I think they've been here long enough to form a reasonable view of their likely value, and the overall picture is poor. Good players often come in and make an immediate impact - because they are good players. At any rate, they tend to have a lot more impact than this. 

I think promotion is a completely reasonable expectation for a club with our resources, facilities, and the squad left by Rosenior: a demanding but far from impossible expectation. 
Failing that, you might accept a manager who managed to build a squad, and tactics, that gave you great confidence in future success. 
Personally, Warne's signings and tactics don't fill me with any great confidence about this season or any future season but I would be very happy to be proven wrong. 
I think this view is much more common than the 'vitriol' mentioned above. 

No idea what the strategy is. No idea what the tactical approach is, beyond 'put out 11 "good characters", tell them to get it forward quickly, and see what they come up with'.
Eight points off automatic and heading in the wrong direction, despite the manager inheriting a more-than-decent squad, and being given plenty of latitude to sign new players. Odd, piecemeal recruitment with no long-term vision. A squad increasingly tilted towards technically limited, League One journeymen. 
Anyone questioning any of this jeered and sneered at - as if you can't really care about something unless you believe, contrary to all evidence, that everything is absolutely fine!
It isn't. It really isn't. 

They don't though, do they? At least not individually. Collectively, maybe.
But there are plenty of posters a bit undecided about the quality of football and about Warne's tactics at the games. Against Burton, against Lincoln, against Reading. Even against Oxford until we launched a storming fight back.
I'm at nearly every game and there are a fair few of the regulars - the ones who encourage for the full 90 minutes, that stay behind and applaud the team regardless of results - that are still feeling ambivalent about Warne's style in particular and whether he is getting the best out of this set of players.
That is telling.
I'm not talking about the ones trooping down the stairs making obscene hand gestures at the few players who dared approach the stands to applaud us, I'm talking about the die-hards.