VulcanRam

Correct, only one game played, we played well enough but on the basis that we only scored one goal I'm not sure how we could have "easily won by two clear goals"? 
It's looking increasingly likely that we won't get pace in. The market is absolutely flat. Even PL teams don't seem to be letting youngsters go out on loan. Teams who have relied heavily on loans in the past might struggle this year.
Your point that you'd rather lose than win 5-0 is completely lost on me. I'll take the 5-0 win thanks. I'm sure the topic among Barnsley fans having beaten Port Vale 7-0 wasn't "I wish we'd lost".
It clearly hasn't gelled straight away but I'm not worried. We played well enough in patches on Saturday to suggest we could have a good season. You wouldn't expect the defence to be collectively that poor again this season.
People have gone over the top, but also I've seen some very valid constructive criticism that you clearly see as whining. 
 
 
 

Correct, only one game played, we played well enough but on the basis that we only scored one goal I'm not sure how we could have "easily won by two clear goals"? 
It's looking increasingly likely that we won't get pace in. The market is absolutely flat. Even PL teams don't seem to be letting youngsters go out on loan. Teams who have relied heavily on loans in the past might struggle this year.
Your point that you'd rather lose than win 5-0 is completely lost on me. I'll take the 5-0 win thanks. I'm sure the topic among Barnsley fans having beaten Port Vale 7-0 wasn't "I wish we'd lost".
It clearly hasn't gelled straight away but I'm not worried. We played well enough in patches on Saturday to suggest we could have a good season. You wouldn't expect the defence to be collectively that poor again this season.
People have gone over the top, but also I've seen some very valid constructive criticism that you clearly see as whining. 
 
 
 

Correct, only one game played, we played well enough but on the basis that we only scored one goal I'm not sure how we could have "easily won by two clear goals"? 
It's looking increasingly likely that we won't get pace in. The market is absolutely flat. Even PL teams don't seem to be letting youngsters go out on loan. Teams who have relied heavily on loans in the past might struggle this year.
Your point that you'd rather lose than win 5-0 is completely lost on me. I'll take the 5-0 win thanks. I'm sure the topic among Barnsley fans having beaten Port Vale 7-0 wasn't "I wish we'd lost".
It clearly hasn't gelled straight away but I'm not worried. We played well enough in patches on Saturday to suggest we could have a good season. You wouldn't expect the defence to be collectively that poor again this season.
People have gone over the top, but also I've seen some very valid constructive criticism that you clearly see as whining. 
 
 
 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

Yeah, I can understand why she didn't want to go. 

The amount of times, after they realised what was going on, Sheff Utd and then Wigan played their way around it suggests we're not great at it. 
 

It's sounds a bit bloody pathetic to be honest - say what the team needs and get on with it. Deal with any consequences of upset player feelings afterwards for goodness sake - I thought that was what he was all about. It's easy when everyone loves each other but not so easy when there's mardiness around?! FFS.

The amount of times, after they realised what was going on, Sheff Utd and then Wigan played their way around it suggests we're not great at it. 
 

They also try and keep the ball when they get it back, rather than give it away as quickly as possible so they can run around and press some more.

That's my point. Does he sweat the small stuff too much? 

Wildsmith 6 - an extra point given for his excellent one on one save, and removed for his error for their winning goal
35Nelson 5 - looked shaky and a bit ponderous
5Bradley 5 - same as Nelson
6Cashin - 5 - same as Nelson and Bradley
14Washington - 5 didn't make an impact
23Ward - 6.5 nothing much first half, much better second half
2Wilson - 6 came on an added some excitement 
12Smith - 7 though on the whole he was our most effective player on the day 
8Bird - 5 Thought he played well first half, totally anonymous second
4Hourihane - 5 We need more, pedestrian for the last half hour 
3Forsyth - 6.5 Great goal, should have had a second. 
Elder - 6 not really any time to make an impact 
9Collins - 5 Some decent work outside the box, but wins nothing in it
11Méndez-Laing 6 in and out of the game, looked most likely to produce something
Thompson - 6 He came on. And according to the rules, when he steps on the pitch he's a six, so there we go.

I’m not sure today was as calamitous as some are making out; there were periods of the game where we moved the ball well and after we scored it looked like we were the only team who would go on to win it. Forsyth’s miss after his goal was one of those marginal pivotal moments that can change games as at 2-1 up I’d like to think we’d go on to win.
However, there were also some genuine concerns. Defensively we looked very uncertain, while predictably up front there was no danger. Collins did some decent work 30 yards out but in the box he just doesn’t look a threat, very flat footed and stationary, easy to get ahead or mark.
Ward barely got over the half way line in the first half, but was much better second. Yet we don’t play through the middle so if our only tactic is to give it to the wing back then it’s not going to be that hard to play against us. Likewise it was just cross, cross, cross, and vast majority were easily dealt with. Tactically, we don’t look very sophisticated. 
 

 
 

I’m not sure today was as calamitous as some are making out; there were periods of the game where we moved the ball well and after we scored it looked like we were the only team who would go on to win it. Forsyth’s miss after his goal was one of those marginal pivotal moments that can change games as at 2-1 up I’d like to think we’d go on to win.
However, there were also some genuine concerns. Defensively we looked very uncertain, while predictably up front there was no danger. Collins did some decent work 30 yards out but in the box he just doesn’t look a threat, very flat footed and stationary, easy to get ahead or mark.
Ward barely got over the half way line in the first half, but was much better second. Yet we don’t play through the middle so if our only tactic is to give it to the wing back then it’s not going to be that hard to play against us. Likewise it was just cross, cross, cross, and vast majority were easily dealt with. Tactically, we don’t look very sophisticated. 
 

 
 

Anyway, from what I saw of Wigan they will be ok this season and would be surprised that if they’re not a top 6 at least on a points-per-game ratio. Warne said they had the best front four in the league, while I’m not sure about that it was very good. McManaman had Ward chasing shadows in the first half, Wyke was who we want Collins to be and I thought Humphrey’s was best of all. Lang, I believe is the highest rated one, but really didn’t see too much from him. I can see why Warne likes them so much. 
I also think the keeper looked excellent and at a such young age should win a lot of plaudits this season. Both centre backs, although young, babysat Collins through the game and stopped him from holding anything up or getting on the end of everything. Aasgard clearly a talented player, too. 
It would be a great achievement if they can get into the play-offs with their -8. Best team aside from Ipswich and Plymouth I’ve seen in this division in the past 12 months anyway. 

I’m not sure today was as calamitous as some are making out; there were periods of the game where we moved the ball well and after we scored it looked like we were the only team who would go on to win it. Forsyth’s miss after his goal was one of those marginal pivotal moments that can change games as at 2-1 up I’d like to think we’d go on to win.
However, there were also some genuine concerns. Defensively we looked very uncertain, while predictably up front there was no danger. Collins did some decent work 30 yards out but in the box he just doesn’t look a threat, very flat footed and stationary, easy to get ahead or mark.
Ward barely got over the half way line in the first half, but was much better second. Yet we don’t play through the middle so if our only tactic is to give it to the wing back then it’s not going to be that hard to play against us. Likewise it was just cross, cross, cross, and vast majority were easily dealt with. Tactically, we don’t look very sophisticated. 
 

 
 

I’m not sure today was as calamitous as some are making out; there were periods of the game where we moved the ball well and after we scored it looked like we were the only team who would go on to win it. Forsyth’s miss after his goal was one of those marginal pivotal moments that can change games as at 2-1 up I’d like to think we’d go on to win.
However, there were also some genuine concerns. Defensively we looked very uncertain, while predictably up front there was no danger. Collins did some decent work 30 yards out but in the box he just doesn’t look a threat, very flat footed and stationary, easy to get ahead or mark.
Ward barely got over the half way line in the first half, but was much better second. Yet we don’t play through the middle so if our only tactic is to give it to the wing back then it’s not going to be that hard to play against us. Likewise it was just cross, cross, cross, and vast majority were easily dealt with. Tactically, we don’t look very sophisticated. 
 

 
 

Wildsmith? 
 
 

I'd agree with a fair bit of that, but I'd just add that until this window does indeed shut, it's hard to fully criticise or praise either way. If we were to sign 3 pacey, younger players it would put an entirely different spin on things. As it is, I think the recruitment has been decent, but there's no doubt that without a good end to the window then we are a bit short. Looking at pure squad numbers isn't great either, we had players like Stearman and Chester who were basically husks of former players included. We've replaced those with players who can actually be used.
I also think the transfer market has been much quieter than anyone anticipated, and Warne himself has said that. This seems to have caught us out a little bit and where you'd usually only get a few teams in on a player who's going free, suddenly half the league and the league above is too because no one is spending money.
What I disagree with is anything to do with sales and budget being labelled towards Warne. Not his fault, he deals with what he's given.
 
And the reason you're being accused of criticising Warne is because you're saying that within the post you made earlier that the first part of it is independent of the "fawn-eyed" remark made at the bottom, but that isn't how it reads.

This. I’ve yet to see anything from the summer that qualifies as relevant or justifiable criticism of Warne himself. If he does something worth criticising I’d get on board with that.
So far he’s managed the limited budget he has in a way he thinks best suits the squad he wants to build, that’s his job, supported by the recruitment staff. The criticism or praise surely comes once we’ve seen them play?
McGoldrick left for his own reasons, he and Warne have said we tried to convince him to stay. What more could Warne have done?
The comments about restrictions being lifted came from local media, Warne has consistently played down the budget all summer, either genuinely or through brinkmanship of some sort. Clowes made a comment he believes our budget is competitive and that led to loose accusations that he’d somehow lied to the squad.
What is there so far this summer to be genuinely critical of the club or Warne about? Not signing a handful of younger free agent options that went elsewhere? 
 
It’s not fawn eyed adulation as sage put it, it’s looking forward to another season with acceptance of what we’ve got available currently.

It's not criticism, it's concern. I'll explain.
Last season Warne said our squad is 3 players short. We are currently 3 players below that figure. So 6 less than he stated he wanted last year. 
Last year Warne bemoaned having too many players 30 and over. Half of our signings are 30 or over. WE have signed one player under 27.
We are 3 days away from our first game and we have 2 CFs, one of which has only had 1 week of training following an injury.
Our 3 of our 4 young players have been sold, under offer or injured. None of the 3 we have left have signed another contract.
We have a game plan that requires a high press but contains little pace in a backline leaving us stretched in CM where we have only slightly more pace. Only Washington and Nelson have increased pace in the starting XI, something which Warne wanted.
The statement after the Sheff Wednesday defeat implied we would have a bigger budget this year, this isn't apparent in reality. The ruling about Jozwiak appears to have swallowed the Knight fee, when we thought those debts were cleared.
 
None of this is a criticism, just legitimate concerns. We are all grateful for Clowes rescuing the club and don't expect or want MM levels of spending, but we currently have the smallest squad of the promotion contenders despite having the biggest 22/23 attendance by miles, 45% higher than our nearest rival. 
These concerns won't stop us buying match or season tickets or cheering our lads on at games, but they are concerns nonetheless.
 
       
      

After a night of severe (and I mean SEVERE) sleep deprivation thanks to a new addition, I did a deep dive on other club's forums to try and gauge the feel of the place and try and get an understanding of where fans expect their clubs to be come the end of the season. Who knows the clubs hopes and aspirations better than their own fans... right(?)! 
You could probably split the division into 5 categories, however due to the sheer confidence of one side then I had to go for six categories. 
Tier 1 - automatic promotion, nothing less: Blackpool. 
No team has more confidence going into the season than Blackpool, although they've lost some (key) players they have absolute faith in their squad and management team. They even have a thread: 'we'll piss league one' where they're united in that thought. Ok, some are obviously more pessimistic about their chances but largely most feel they're at worst a play-off team next season. 
Tier 2 - play-offs, automatic promotion hopefuls: Barnsley, Bolton & I would put us here. 
Barnsley are still very confident of a good season, the general belief is they have comfortably the best midfield in the league (which I thought was ironic since most of their wins came when they barely touched the ball and still feel they have enough to mount a challenge. Bolton, too, who I think were hoping for a better transfer window than they've had but they have faith in the players remaining. They're optimistic about their frontline, more so than their defence. We're the opposite, I would say, but all three sides believe they're 2-3 players short from cementing a tier one space next to the mighty Blackpool. 
Tier 3 - play-off expectation, upper mid-table floor: Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford, Wycombe. 
I was surprised about the confidence out of Wycombe since they've lost Lewis Wing (their best player IMO) but their recent transfer activity has them a little bit giddy. Portsmouth, who a lot of people are tipping for top 2, aren't being held in the same belief as their fans. They feel they lack creativity and goals in the side and whilst Poole and Scully have earned good reviews - the rest of the players have underwhelmed in pre-season. Charlton are a little more confident, but still feel they're quite a few short. Oxford are absolutely buzzing after their pre-season and definitely have an expectation they will be in the top 6 come the end of the season. Ruben Rodrigues as their top goalscorer. 
Tier 4 - upper midtable, play-off hopeful: Reading, Bristol Rovers and Burton Albion. 
One of these is not like the other, Reading are quite negative in their assessment and but some are still hopeful they can get to the play-offs this season. Bristol Rover and Burton Albion are more in hope than in expectation they can make it. We'll have to see about Reading, obviously they were making an impression in the market before it all got shutdown. 
Tier 5 - midtable sides with very little hope of play-offs: Lincoln, Fleetwood, Peterborough, Wigan, Leyton Orient & Cheltenham. 
Surprised at the apathy regarding Peterbrough but can only assume it's due to the news floating around the club at the minute, not surprising as we have been there. Wigan fans are confident midtable obscurity is where they will land following the -8 point deduction. I tend to agree with them. Cheltenham are fairly chipper for a team that's just lost their top goalscorer but believe Keena can more than replace him. Leyton Orient are obviously buoyant after winning League Two and keeping their better players around, bar the goalkeeper which is understandable. Lincoln are happy with their business, still many predict them to be within the 8th-14th spots. Fleetwood, somewhat surprised me, but they think they will be well clear of relegation too given Marriott and Stockley upfront. 
Tier 6 - lower midtable sides, relegation worries: Cambridge, Exeter, Shrewsbury, Stevenage, Port Vale, Northampton & Carlisle. 
I won't go into it too mcuh, but all these sides are the ones who are anticipating a struggle on the whole. Cambridge, Northampton and Exeter are the three I worry most about after looking at their fans concerns. Shrewsbury very downbeat after losing Steve Cotternil and Luke Leahy. Carlisle, Northampton and Stevenage are just promoted teams looking to survive the year. No surprise none of them have aspirations of play-offs. 
In terms of other teams expectations - definitely felt most expected us to finish top, more often than not the top two predictions were us and Bolton. Portsmouth thrown in at times, as were Barnsley. Despite Blackpool's confidence, very few had them finishing in the top 2 funnily enough. 
If I was going to use all this and make my own prediction: 
Derby, Bolton, Blackpool, Charlton, Oxford and Barnsley would be my best for a top 6. 
Cambridge, Northampton and Carlisle/Exeter for the drop.