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1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

How do you know he hasn't. It says in the article by Percy that he has.

What's your information based on? Don't really care if you reply.

If Percy says it then it must be true, mmmmm

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

Lol. Comparing MA and CK. ROFL.

Laugh all you like, how do you know he has the paperwork, carry on @RoyMac5always look forward to your replies.

1 minute ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

The deal with the ground astounds me, Mel Morris is in debt to MSD for £20m allegedly… I’m struggling with why the prospective new owners must pay this debt off entirely.

Why can’t it be a contribution of a lesser amount say £10m, 1/2 the alleged debt and this allows all potential bidders the opportunity to rectify the ? show that MM left us in.

Surely for MM and from a business POV, a contribution towards the debt is better option than bring left with the entire debt and no tenants!

Just a thought ??

MA may have come to an agreement with MM over the stadium, just guessing. However that's no good without the club but he isn't prepared to pay what is required.

9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Well he says he has paperwork. It's not like he didn't do the same to that woman at Newcastle! He doesn't need to bluff.

So he says he has the paperwork, CK said he had the money.

2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Well he says he has paperwork. It's not like he didn't do the same to that woman at Newcastle! He doesn't need to bluff.

Lets see him get on with it then and see who comes out the winner.

14 minutes ago, Kinder said:

This really is shocking. What’s Ashley’s tactic though? Is it going to help him get the club? As crap as Q are, it’s surely going to cause a massive delay if we have to appoint new administrators.

Has he got proof of what he is alleging?

10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

FFS!

"Ashley's lawyers alleged that Carl Jackson, one of the joint administrators, made representations that he knew were false.

Legal documents allege that Ashley's group, MASH, were told they were named as preferred bidders in January and it is claimed Jackson failed to inform the Football League, despite insisting he would. It is also alleged that Jackson did this with the intention that MASH would continue to engage in the bidding process, incurring costs in doing so, and to submit a formal bid which would drive up the price for other bidders.

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Quantuma were contacted for comment on Thursday and a spokeswoman on behalf of Mr Jackson said: ..."We are not concerned by this claim, which we regard as frivolous, and we would like to reassure all parties that it will have no bearing on the successful sale of the club, which remains our overriding priority."

...Ashley, it is understood, is still set to table another offer to save the club from liquidation this week, with the League One fixtures to be announced next week.

A spokesman for MASH said on Thursday night: "Mike Ashley believes that the stadium and the football club need to be purchased with the same owner, as there is no way Derby in its current position can justify paying rent for the stadium.

"If he was successful in purchasing the club and stadium, he would undertake that no rent would ever be paid for the stadium."  

Ashley had no luck with his media inspired attack on the administrators now resorting to the courts.

Just shows how desperate he is to get his hands on the ground, how does MA know whether there is no justification paying rent for the stadium but is still to table a bid, that says it all, give in and accept my price or i will make a takeover as hard as possible.

6 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I agree. There will still be some willing to stay, those with more of a connection to the club perhaps (thinking Davies, Cashin, Thommo) however there will be others who are offered deals and have to take their decisions. The Kirchner deal collapsing is going to be the catalyst for a few definitely moving on now in my opinion.

Davies has more of a connection to Leyton Orients manager and said he would be happy seeing his career out there.

11 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Lol. Of course he will. Have you seen the number of social media followers he has?

He might have but his followers won't all be interested in DCFC.

1 hour ago, oldtimeram said:

I'll get the glass hammer

It's on the shelf above the elbow grease.

Just now, Needlesh said:

If Wayne Rooney stays, we're box office in Sky terms. If not, less so.

We have been box office because we were fighting a 21 point deduction and kept in within a glimmer of a chance to almost the very end. If we had been relegated early March the interest for Sky wouldn't have been there. Rooney won't make that much difference the novelty of him being manager will have worn off.

1 hour ago, PistoldPete said:

But over £5 m in TV and media revenue and I think we would be higher than that especially in WOrld Cup year. So I think you need to revise your revenue estimate upwards by a few million. £20 m in total seems reasonable to me.

Only if we around the top 6 when the world cup comes round,laguishing mid table or near the bottom will see Sky focus on other clubs.

1 hour ago, McMuffin said:

Either that or Appleby’s been on dragons den and got Debra Meadan as a mystery backer to join those two!

9 hours ago, Big Trav said:

He was set to be announced as preferred bidder. Then admins cut the deal. Now Ashley is refusing to pay the fees from that point onwards as it’s ‘shady business practice’

He has really got you sucked in to his media campaign against the administrators,just because they won't dance to his tune doesn't mean it is "shady business practice" . Was that Ashleys comment or is it yours,if it's yours i hope you have proof.

3 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

Yes, I imagine that you would.

Do you really think the EFL want to help us even care about us.

All they care about is that they are not the organisation that puts us into liquidation,,they would rather the administrators did that,that way they save face.

Just now, StaffsRam said:

This is like waking up on Christmas morning and being told that actually no, Santa hasn’t been, he’s now coming imminently, or perhaps even in a few weeks. Rinse and repeat, every morning, until we get to the middle of June, and then suddenly we’re told that the Action Man you were expecting is now probably going to be a GI Jane, but that there’s also the possibility that you might not get anything because Santa’s been fitted up as a nonce and he might be going to prison instead.

All of the while, the man on the telly/in the paper is continually telling us what method of transportation Santa will be using and whether or not we can expect Action Man to be delivered in a British Commando or SS Stormtrooper uniform.

Or an empty box labelled as an Action Man deserter.

1 minute ago, DerbyRevolution said:

Rob Dorestt said there are local businessmen that are willing to fund until taken over. They and the administrators can explain that to the EFL and we will start the season, almost certainly now in administration 

He will say that because him and Nixon come on here as a source of what to report.

23 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

I am still on page 2020, and have to go do some work, but a deal (actual sale) does not need to be concluded by 23 June (fixture list). As long as Q can present a suitable business plan to the EFL, and a generous benefactor (say a Clowes or Gadsby type figure) is prepared to guarantee funding the club in the short to medium term by way of gift/loan, and creditors are no worse off, the EFL are not going to say no. It is in their rules that we can continue to be in the League at the start of the season notwithstanding being in Admin for some 9 months.  Chill everyone; there are a lot of interested parties out there.  All I would say is that at some point in the season to come though, perhaps before we kick-off in the first game, it is highly likely that we will have a 15 point penalty to contend with.

I would imagine the EFL have the right to say that unfortunately DCFC have been unable to provide proof of funding to complete the upcoming season therefore it is with regret they have been excluded from the seasons fixture list to maintain the integrity of the league.

59 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

One of the issues we have as supporters is Q are tasked with getting the best deal for the creditors  there is no one ensuring that whoever takes over the ownership our club will have the interests of the club at heart and be able to sustain us in the long term.

The bottom line is Derby County is a business however, we supporters have a lot more invested in Derby County than we do in our local Tescos, which is also a business.

There’s nothing we can do about the above just sit and hope for the right outcome.

This post is an excellent example of how to depress yourself????

That's it exactly,unless we have a DCFC  supporter with deep pockets and a big bank balance (yes i know we have already done that).

Buyers wont have the sentiment regarding the club it is purely business and not a very viable business at that.

1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:

Yes. And that is because yesterday when many were desperate for news, any news, the only source of anything was Nixon. Not Q not the EFL not DET...

You are Nixon and i claim my £5

1 hour ago, Foreveram said:

Yoohoo ,free ride on the big one.

Do you know Rosenior personally then?

1 hour ago, GenBr said:

What are you disagreeing with? We wont be able to afford the maintenance on the stadium if we're starting too far down the pyramid and we definitely won't be able to afford to buy it without a mysterious benefactor. Neither of those points is debatable. You could argue that you think the timescales wont be quite so long as a decade, but you are relying on back to back promotions to get us straight back up.

I said the stadium wouldnt be demolished as well - that was my entire argument - its too expensive to redevelop the land!!!! You wont make millions out of putting shops, etc in it though - not a chance. The only way you will make any significant money from it is gigs, etc and thats only if you're competitive enough to pull those events away from the bigger cities like Nottingham.

I seem to remember there is planning permission for a roof to be installed.

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

So would the EFL be kicking out the other clubs with money issues as well then? And before you say it it’s in the rules that you can start a season in administration 

Not quite the same is it,other clubs aren't in administration,other clubs have a full squad.

Yes you can start another season in administration however the EFL have a right to ask for proof of funding to complete the season, at this present time we can't do that.

Ignore my previous post,somewhat ambiguous and contradictory information regarding HMRC.

6 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

The question at this point is, what is the absolute minimum required to play L1 football next season? Is it just football creditors that have to be paid in full, or do other creditors need paying some money too?

This is of interest when exiting administration re HMRC.

According to EFL rules, they must be paid in full. For example, if the club owes another club a transfer fee instalment, that club is a football creditor. And all these preferential creditors must be treated equally: you cannot say to one group I'm going to pay you 50p in the pound but then pay another group in full.22 Sept 2021