Alph

3 hours ago, Norman said:

I agree with you. Ronnie has to be his coach though, surely? 

He's too old to hold the pads, but i dont buy this whole "i'm the water carrier" business. 

Who arranges the sparring times, the money exchanged and finds the oponents etc? It must be Ronnie. Jr may be very self motivating, so doesn't need a training regime or constant monitoring. I think that might be more it.

But then Ronnie hasn't really coached anyone other than Sr at this level, has he? 

And the lad on the pads is just a mate who he taught how to hold the pads. Not knocking that, i'm sure he knows what he's doing by now, but maybe it does point to him not getting trained by anyone. 

I just don't believe Ronnie carried his water in training, offers no insights and then turns up the press conferences. He's got enough money, his own gym. Why would he do that? Makes him look like a submissive fool. 

Watched the press conference and the bit with the talk about training must be awkward for Ronnie. Going along with the Eubanks.

"The kid has natural talent. He knows what to do"

Bleurgh! 

Here's a video of me being held back by my Dad.

I've not got a trainer because I can't be taught anything new

.... 

43 minutes ago, Norman said:

I think it was all a ploy. They had to do test events. And whilst everyone mocked ITV for the price, and the fights put on (no undercard, billed as title fights), I think looking back it was testing for this tournament. And i bet Jr only entered when the tournament hokders agreed to ITV box office showing it. 

Meanwhile he picked up a belt from Matalan, as Saunders would say, and tried to attract casuals by going on Loose Women etc. All through ITV shows aswell. Mutaully beneficial.

He will be a multi millionairre if he wins this fight. And ITV will be challenging BT and SKY. I expect to see some free fights put on Saturday nights, too. Maybe they will use Haye's new company? Maybe Joe Joyce and try to turn him into a PPV fighter.

Froch has said his head is hard from previous spars, but they had head guards on so we won't know until his jaw rattles. But he's been hit a lot due to his style, and everyone can hit at that level, and i've never seen him wobble or look hurt.

I'm worried for Groves. He marks easily. If he's getting hit a lot, he might still be there and fine, but will he swell around the eyes etc? 

He needs to knock Jr inside 6 to win, in my opinion. And he could, quite easily. Jr is open, his chin is there. So are the shots to the body. 

I just don't think he will land many. He only throws when he knows he will hit. Hes going to have to throw more than that I think, just to keep Jr off him. So KO before 6 or gasses badly because of the work he is being made to do and loses on points.

You not looking forward to the arrogant posturing after he KOs Groves. 

Isn't HayeMaker signed up to Dave? Or is is just show by show basis?

Not just the posturing but I think he's found a bit of an exploit by going up a weight. All the great fights are at middle. I can see 12-18 months of his deluded boasting if he dominates this weight. And if he can beat Groves then he probably will dominate. 

All his "leaked" fairy tales. His "We don't own white towels". Questions DeGale's ability and calls Grove arrogant for daring to step in the ring with him.

Knob head. Your biggest fight is a loss to BJS. Your world title was taken from who? Quidditch? I dunno. Some bloke who had a belt and nothing else to bargain with.

He's calling out GGG, BJS, Groves, DeGale. These guys between them have beaten him, won titles, been in brutal fights, fought super fights and signed contracts to fight Jnr and he rejected them.

If he beats Groves then some of his boasting has been justified. Some. He's still deluded.

Great style to watch though. 

1 hour ago, Norman said:

I'm going for Eubank. 

But if Groves can land the body shots and get his jab going, he will stop Eubank.

I just don't think the jab will get going because of jrs workrate. So i don' t think Groves will be able to set his power shots up so easily. 

Eubank on points.

A proper, classy 50/50 with 2 different, but entertaining styles. Can't wait. Who'd have thought such big fights would happen on ITV box office this time last year? The Eubanks and ITV have played a blinder there.

I wonder if the Eubanks had this tournament in their plans when going to ITV? Or did they really think Jnr could get viewers on his own and then luckily the tournament came along?

Groves has a great jab but it couldn't keep Chudinov away. How does Chudinov's chin compare with Jnr's though?

I agree that Jnr will overwhelm the jab and I can see Groves getting hit a lot. But he's tough. I think he'll take it and the Jnr will get a proper test of everything. Has he got the power? How does his workrate stand when he's getting hit back and ultimately does he have a tougher head than Chudinov. 

He'll be unbearable if he wins you know? Callum Smith is so hot and cold that Jnr could quite probably go on and win the tournament. With Badou Jack going up a weight  (and what a fight he's gone for!!!) then Jnr could dominate the division.

That's if he's good enough to beat Groves. 

I really hope he isn't. As entertaining as his style is I'd like to see him retreat to middleweight and fight BJS. 

Groves v Jnr on Sat. Derby lad on the undercard

Very interesting fight. Predict fast start from Jnr before Groves starts landing body shots. That'll slow him down.

Ending... either Groves on points or some "injury" preventing Jnr from finishing. Love to see him knocked out though.

My mates all going for a Eubank win. 

Booooooooooooooooo

Dick head.

Okolie v Chamberlain on Sat. Great match up. Okolie the hyped up banger and Chamberlain the less spectacular technician.

The dislike seems genuine. More so from Okolie who seems to want headlines. But this goes back months. 

I think and hope Chamberlain wins this. Seems like a nice lad who quietly goes about his work. 

Okolie just wants to bang people out. Lanky and powerful he looks pretty intimidating but he's always looking to be spectacular. Reckon he'll start fast and get broken down 

Kinell boys and girls. This thread is hard to read. I don't give advice because I don't know what to say. 

Just wanted to wish you all well though. 

11 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Meanwhile, back on topic...

Lineker's salary.

He's a knobber.

"If Leicester win the league I'll present MOTD in my pants"

next season after I've had all summer in the gym and on sunbeds.

Do it proper or not at all

4 minutes ago, reveldevil said:

Tears, as in watery signs of pain coming from the eye.

The eye. THE eye?

All this is quite disturbing. Starting to feel happy now that the missus decided we only touch each other on the 5th Monday in February.

35 minutes ago, reveldevil said:

Realist.

I know it's known as pulling it off, but there's no need to take it so literally.

Tears are not necessarily a sign of joy!

Tears or tears. 

It's the pronunciation that interests me

Errol Spence battered Lamont Peterson from the first minute. 

Not a great "fight". Spence was great though. Still the most competitive division

1 hour ago, reveldevil said:

Act?

Whoa! 

You didn't live the WWE attitude era? You're embarrassing yourself

11 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

As you say, GGG would cut the ring off much better than Lemieux ever could. He was terrible at it, allowing BJS to just walk to his right everytime they got close. Made him look like an amateur.

GGG is still the best in the division by some way for me.

BJS is a hypocrite, claiming GGG was only calling him out while he was overweight and sloppy.

More like BJS is now calling GGG out because he has aged and gone through Jacobs and Canelo in his last two fights. Two years ago BJS wouldn’t have lasted six rounds with Golovkin.

Agree with all that. 

If GGG can pin down Canelo after a few rounds then he can get BJS. Lemieux's team were constantly calling for him to work the body but he couldn't get near enough. GGG will certainly do so and BJS will have to engage more to escape. He's got a nice jab though and respectable power so it would make it good viewing to see how he escapes. 

His point about GGG calling him out is daft. He called him out as soon as he cleared up the belts and Canelo vacated. The fight wasn't on so he accepted Eubank Jnr prizefight. That fight didn't happen so it was Brook. Then the regular champion Jacobs. He got the Canelo fight what? A year after chasing it? I think it's pretty clear he's not scared of taking risks. He just wants big fights. Has there ever been a time where it could be even considered that he swerved someone? He's wants your world title, not your name! When he called BJS out it certainly wasn't for the money or name. 

I think Jacobs could still have a big say. He doesn't seem to fancy the GGG fight too strongly but he's up for BJS. Now let's see if Saunders fancies that. 

52 minutes ago, Norman said:

Now @David has pointed out the BJS thing, it's hard not to laugh at how much it happens .

George Groves v Eubank Jr

Callum Smith vs Eubank Jr

BJS v Golovkin

BJS v Eubank Jr.

What a sequence of fights that would be!

Yeah, you know boxing though. Take about 5 years to get them fights.

I bet GGG has a bus pass before Jnr fights either of the last 2

On 13/12/2017 at 09:36, David said:

When did boxing go all x rated? 

There's loads of fisting. Sometimes people go down. Some fighters like to come inside. The camera views are good too. They zoom in on the ring

Just watching it now. I find BJS impossible to like but that performance was thoroughly entertaining.

I think he's had it a bit easy for a world champion imo up until his Willie Monroe fight. I thought Willie Monroe might take that belt and we'd see BJS either retire or knock around outside the elite.

2 impressive wins and that performance last night makes you think the elites will have to bring their best game. I'd still back Canelo or GGG or Jacobs but I'm not so confident Eubank Jnr would smash him as I was. 

That fight has surely got to happen again? A couple of years maybe but if BJS performs like that then surely he'll make a name of himself even in defeat? The Canadian pundits loved him. 

18 minutes ago, Norman said:

@Alpha

What was i saying about Tyson Fury and that back dated 2 year ban .

Glad he's back. You might get to see more of BJS in between his fights now.

Great news!!

Weird conclusion but whatever!

Wonder what route he'll go down? Straight for after Joshua after a warm up? Make some cash with Bellew after a warm up? Whyte? WBC?

 See Wilder challenging Ortiz? What the hell? A fight of no value at all to him. 

2 hours ago, Norman said:

He looked really sluggish. Started to plant his feet late on, but i think that's maybe because his shoulder wasn't carrying the power it needed to, or the angles were uncomfortable for him to throw. And his mouth got ******* again. 

Can't see him lasting much longer. Too many heavy rounds, too many 12 round wars. It's a shame, because the world series is going to get huge for that divison in this country next year, and he could have fought the winner in a mega fight.

Hope youre tuning in next week live. 

2am to watch Billy Joe Saunders. 

I come back from Slovenia that day and it's top of my list of reasons to be happy to come back. It's the only thing tbf. Watching BJS get that belt taken off him before he hides it again.

Having said that it'd be fun build up for him v Canelo or GGG. 

I bet Frank Warren was angry about DeGale. 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Crawford had three fights in 2016, and two in 2017 with the latter unifying all the belts against Indongo. In fairness to him, there aren't many names at 140 and he was clearly a level above the rest.

I'm looking forward to seeing him at 147.

Fair enough then. I read somewhere about him earning mega money but I bet not a single none boxing fan in the UK knows the name, you know? He barely gets a mention on any interview with any fighter. 

Isn't Crawford another American that fights once a decade?

Got plenty to watch tonight. Yarde, Dubois, DeGale and Lomachenko. Shame about DeGale. Reckon @Norman called it? A few too many brawls?

7 minutes ago, Boycie said:

You lot need proper jobs, get home from work and play computer games? ‘ast herd theesens?

What do you do? Talk? Spend quality time with the kids?

That's the **** that made me buy a computer. I just wish I had my own bedroom

1 hour ago, rynny said:

I love the Disney games  they are easy to play.

 

ffs

2 hours ago, JoetheRam said:

Was just the Theatre at MSG - the Ice Hockey was in the main arena. Probably 1500 in attendance.

First fights I've seen live (undercard was massive - must have been 9 fights), enjoyed it, despite the number of Yanks who can't handle a beer and have no concept of banter. 

Was very surprised the ref left it so late with the stoppage - seemed to want to see Shabranskyy lifted off his feet. Kovalev's power was impressive.

A couple of really questionable decisions by the judges in the earlier fights slightly soured it, but got to witness the great Michael Buffer in full flow.

I'm jealous! 

1500 to watch Kovalev. He needs a new promoter!! 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

 

Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux is next weekend. Potential fight of the year.

Probably barely get a pub full of viewers from the UK sadly. 

I've never seen Rigondeaux fight. Just highlights of his career. Seen Lomachenko though and he doesn't do boring.

The Last Of Us. I got a ps3 for that then got rid