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4 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

I not bought any brand new games in ages, but tempted with RDR2. What sort of price will it be after Xmas?

Official reviews were megahyped, but comments like David's clunky controls suggest it might not be as good as it's made out?

I've loved it so far. It's leaning more towards an RPG game than ever before. It wants you to go slow and really embrace some tedious chores that it somehow makes quite fun. 

It doesn't want you to massacre a town and see if you can get a horse to land on a train. It wants you to say good morning to a town and buy a train ticket. 

It's an RPG that pretended to be a GTA so nobody would be put off.

By clunky do you mean heavy? I like that, seems like everything has weight. 

11 minutes ago, SaintRam said:

Too many games about at the moment so I'll be picking up Red Dead when its some money off in the Xmas sales, assuming multiplayer has been released. Will have to report back at that time

Multiplayer is early November I think. Be interesting to see how it works now they've gone down the realism route. Lots of people play GTA online to just mess about. That will still happen here obviously but I don't think they'll be putting in jetpacks and monster trucks to support it

So, Red Dead. 

Love, like, loathe?

Rockstar ditched the schoolboy humour and gone for more realism which I like. 

Yee-haa!

1 hour ago, tomsdubs said:

Agreed, they messed Matchroom around for ages and still continue to. Wilder changes his demands every week. They still haven't sold all the seats for Wilder vs Fury or even announced an undercard.

If Wilder loses I hope AJ refuses to fight him. Then he's lost his belt, his precious '0' and a double figure millions payday. 

All his talk about "1 Champion" and he's avoided the other belts for 40 fights. 40 fights and 1 title shot. 

Is it Red Dead Day yet? ?

I just think Wilder talks poo all the time. Don't dislike the guy but his promotional team (Finkel) are proper twits. 

All they, and Frank Warren, have done is use AJ's name to build this fight. Embarrassing.  

8 hours ago, CWC1983 said:

Anyone watch Ch5 coverage of Hunter v Bakole tonight? 

Really good scrap which went against the "next big thing" in UK heavyweights. 

 

I saw the undercard but missed the main fight. 

Lewis Ritson lost last night. Went against the script. 

Johnny Nelson thinks Fielding will win?! Nah!! 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Groves vs Smith going under the radar somewhat tonight.

Smith is a bit dull isn't he? 

Seems sound but he's kind of a lazy fighter.

See Eubank Jnr is back. Oh goody...

Think the heavies are popular purely because there's always a chance of it kicking off.

Take Luke Campbell on Saturday night vs Yvan Mandy. That's a good match up. But it's not going to keep the casual viewers interest when Luke Campbell is extremely unlikely to even hurt Mendy never mind KO him. People want blood. Casual viewers don't tune in to watch 12 rounds and a points decision. 

AJ interests everyone because he's Olympic gold medallist who delivers knockouts. A few scrappy points wins and they'll trail off

I didn't realise Kovalev fought never mind got beat last month.

9 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

It’s not so much that I don’t rate AJ, I just think he’s in a really weak era.

AJ for me isn’t even a top 10 pound for pount fighter in the world, yet he’s absolutely cruising the heavyweight division making £20 million per fight and he’s fighting boxers who don’t make top 30 pound for pound.

You look around the divisions and the heavyweight is one of the least competitive.

You have an abundance of world class fighters between 126 and 160 who can all move up or down in weights to make superfights.

But they don’t get anywhere near as much attention as a decent heavyweight cruising past average opponents in comparison.

Imagine making a super8 with welterweights. Crawford, Thurman, Spence, Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter, Brook, Khan, Pacquiao... Every fight would be a must-watch. Epic.

Who would watch a super8 heavyweights? Who would even make it in there? The standard would be poor.

Hasn't it always been that way though? What era could a 6ft 6 fighter drop down to fight the best light heavyweights and Cruiserweights. 

The lowest weights have always had the most competition haven't they? I mean even the great Ali was 16+ st. Imagine him trying to strip down to clean up at light heavy or even cruiser. 

They're too big. 

6 hours ago, StockholmRam said:

112 pages in and Im not sure if this has been done on the thread before. If it has then ignore me... If it hasnt then feel free to join in.

Favourite boxer of our/your lifetime. 

Thomas Hearns for me. Wow..exciting crazy fighter.

Joe Calazaghe here too. 

I've never seen the Hagler v Hearns fight but it's supposed to be a mad one isn't it? 

8 hours ago, McLovin said:

Joshua’s changed my mind, 2 years ago I thought he was overrated and relied on nothing but his power. I thought that he was an ok boxer but nothing much apart and would be exposed in the latter rounds which is why I thought he’d be exposed against the likes of Parker, Klitchscho etc. I guess you could call me a Joshua hater then.  Now I think he’s the real deal. I can’t see anyone beating him. Fury a few years ago probably would be very close but I can’t ever see him ever getting back to that level. I can see Joshua going unbeaten his whole boxing heavyweight career and retire within 5 years before making a transfer to mma(which he’s spoken about in the past).

It will be very tough for him to remain unbeaten in that division. Lennox Lewis lost to Hasim Rahman in a routine defence that had next to no appeal. 

He has improved massively since Wlad though. He improves a lot after tough fights. Wilder should have taken him on by now because he's learning so much and he's gone well beyond the powerful counter puncher we saw 3 years ago. He isn't reckless with his energy since the Wlad fight. He's getting hit a lot now. He developed a good jab after the Wlad and Takam fights. He started changing up his guard against Povetkin. You can guarantee that they'll get to work on his footwork after this fight too. He got caught feet planted a couple of times and it's provided the perfect lesson for the Wilder fight. 

At 22 fights old and 28 years of age he will dominate the division. Whether he takes a couple of defeats on the chin or not who knows. But it doesn't look like he's going to be far from world title fights for a very long time. Sure to leave a Lennox Lewis impact at bare minimum 

7 hours ago, Smyth_18 said:

Followed AJ religiously from the olympics up to around the Klitschko fight. (his best performance)

Unfortunately i just can't stand him anymore or the atmosphere around his fights. People who don't have a care for boxing from week to week suddenly become experts and seem to brag by posting pictures of their TV. 'look im a big boxing fan because i've paid 20 quid to watch Anthony Joshua.'
Not to mention the amount of girls giving my phone water damage whenever his face appears.

Unfortunately, i don't think he is 'real' anymore. Everything he posts is in paid partnership with something which isn't in line with his ethos of 'staying humble'.

 

I really want to like him as he is brilliant. But for many reasons which aren't always his own doing, i can't stand him anymore.

 

I get what you're saying but like @David says, a lot of it is chucked at him whether he likes it or not.

He's also said in the past that while he doesn't enjoy the media stuff that much it does serve to inspire people which he does like. 

I get more pissed off at the celebs who are only hanging around him while he's hot and the fans that think he's some God that knocks everyone out. 

Where was Jamie Redknapp when he fought Gary Cornish in what was supposed to have a bit of risk involved. Or Kevin Johnson who was supposed to give him rounds? 

He is a walking advert but he does admit that it's all about drawing attention to the boxing world. It's worked a treat. 

And what I really like is when he does deviate from the poster boy image and when he gets pulled up on it he quite rightly reminds people that he's a fighter. He fights for a living. It's not a game for choir boys. 

1 hour ago, 86 points said:

Fair enough mate. I don't pretend to be an expert in any case, I just know what I find entertaining and what I don't. Nobody else expressed the opinion post-fight so I assumed you were referring to my posts rather than something nobody had posted. 

I was moaning about some haters out there on social media and that's what Jimbo referred to.

There are loads mate. Calling this boxer a bum and that boxer a bin man. The keyboard warriors couldn't cope with a training camp never mind the sparring and fighting 

Hey, it will be great to see how Usyk gets on at that weight. Holyfield came in and apparently fought in a golden era. He came up to the weight and was fighting at the same height and weight we can expect from Usyk. 

I don't think it's unfair to say that Usyk has proven in the amateurs, world series and professional cruiserweight division that he's incredibly skilled with one hell of chin. There's no better decorated boxer to test the modern heavies. Forget punch power, this guy will test their boxing. 

Personally I think he'll fall short when faced with the elite heavies because they are much better than given credit. 

Add Joyce and Ortiz to the list of fighters in this era

I think past heavyweight eras are overrated. I'm not saying AJ is beating Mike Tyson or Lewis or Ali!! It's just not an argument that should exist. 

It seems every era people say the HW division is weak. Every era. 

You wouldn't argue about 70's Derby vs 90's Man United. 

The HW division has always looked like it's got crap fighters purely because they don't always carry the best physique and they drop like sacks of turd. 

People said the same when Lewis ruled the world. And then again under the Klitschko's. Now you look back on them as legends and remember epic fights. What about the human punchbags they all fought. It took them 40+ fights to prove themselves as legends 

I think the HW division has everything right now. Miller, Whyte, Parker, Fury x2, AJ, Chagaev, Dauhapas, Wilder, Molina, Hammer, Brown, Charr, Takam, Chisora, Pulev, Usyk (soon), Haye, Wlad, Povetkin...

So many different styles and sizes that have paired off in the last couple of years. Not all in their prime but what era was any different?

Seeing a few haters over social media as usual when Joshua fights. And he still marches on. 

Still some people think you can't support AJ and Fury. You can. 

Took AJ 4 rounds to figure Povetkin out though. Great effort from Povetkin. 

It's odd. Price is far stiffer than AJ but he caught Povetkin a few times as Povetkin went under and over with a hook. He caught the top of his head because Povetkin leaves himself open when he hooks. 

Joshua never really got that success. But it was further proof he's got a good chin and as soon as Povetkin slowed down he took him out perfectly. 

Seen one idiot say that if AJ had been in with a world class fighter tonight he'd have lost. What? Like Povetkin? Wlad? Parker? 

AJ and Wilder have both nearly messed up here. Povetkin nearly spoiled their fight and Tyson still might. Terrible that this fight wasn't made. It'll be Whyte in April.

11 minutes ago, froggg said:

What time is A J on ?

9.50 ringwalk.

Okolie stunk the place out ??. Good! Can't stand the bloke. Keep over reaching like that and he's getting ko'd soon. 

Price should have tried to see the fight out imo. Yeah further injury may have put him out for 12 months but that defeat will put him out of these big night undercards for 12 months.  

AJ card looks a bit poor compared to previous shows. 

I don't like Lawrence Okolie. A grade A tit. 

David Price isn't the prettiest boxer to watch. 

I don't think any other fight has been given a second mention. 

I think AJ will get rid of Povetkin quite easily. Not because Povetkin is a 'bum' but just because he's giving away too much to Joshua. Age, weight, height, reach, speed, venue! 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Should have been more specific. By that time the judges had scored it 6 rounds to 5 for Canelo.

That’s just so wrong. Inhad Golovkin winning 7 of the first 11.

What exactly did Canelo do to win? They say he won because he was the aggressor and stood in the middle of the ring. If that’s the case, why didn’t GGG winnthe first fight by a wide decision when he had Canelo on the ropes for 10 rounds.

 

Another reason I've heard is because although GGG landed more punches that Canelo landed more meaningful shots.

Which is odd because I remember 1 point where Canelo was clipped and was desperately but brilliantly trying to survive an onslaught. He was caught heavy just as much as GGG if not more.

But that's what I read from some American pundit. 

So Canelo won for controlling the fight. For holding the center of the ring? What other basis can it be on? It must be that for the first 9 rounds he looked comfortable while GGG seemed to be probing? 

The last few rounds, fair play to Canelo and his chin, he lost control. He actually had a good round at the end but he wasn't controlling the fight. GGG was in control. 

That's the only way I thought Canelo could be seen to have won it. Just with the illusion that taking the center of the ring against GGG is dominating him. Yeah it's unusual but at the end of the day his punches aren't worth more because of where he's stood!! 

Great fight and I think Canelo is great to watch. He's got a spectacular left hook. 

GGG... age is going to catch up with him soon and I feel if he hasn't got a deserved win from either of the first 2 fights then he won't get one in the 3rd. The camps are going to take more out of him than Canelo. 

I think he expected Canelo to be defensive and was hoping to work the body on the ropes. Never got chance.